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Old 11-10-2003, 02:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
Phaenx
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Re: Re: Re: WAR IN IRAQ - Should it be? Should WE be?

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Originally posted by james t kirk
The taliban were not in power at the time the Russians were in Afghanistan. They only came to power about 3 or so years ago.

Do you really know what is going on in Afghanistan? I don't. Depends who you listen to. The big media has pulled out of Afghanistan because that is not where the ratings generating action is now. But the fact of the matter is that Afghanistan hasn't really changed one bit. The country remains a very dangerous lawless place, run by fanatics and war lords. The taliban / whoever was ever in control before, are still doing what they always did wherever they did it.
Someone beat the Russians there, it doesn't really matter if it was the Taliban or not.

There was a news report on the progress in Afghanistan not long ago on CNN I think, you're making some big assumptions there coming from someone who admits they don't really know what's going on over there. They've got most of the cities linked with paved roads and it actually isn't as lawless as you think. Most of the cities are patrolled by american/foreign soldiers and is according to the news anchor usually fairly peaceful, make no doubt about it, we're in charge. No doubt there are a few isolated incidents, but by that logic Los Angeles a god forsaken wasteland as well.


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Oh man, that is unreal.

How many of the 911 terrorists were Iraqis?

Answer - 0

How many of the 911 terrorists were Iranian?

Answer - 0

How many of the 911 terrorists were Saudis?

Answer 15 of 19.

The US was based in Saudi Arabia. As you say, "the world's most powerful military standing "inside" your doorstep"

Didn't seem to deter the Saudis now did it. In fact, it is what pissed them off in the first place.

It would appear that the Americans have not learned from the first time.

I don't think a long term american presence in Iraq will guarantee you the security you think it will. If anything, it will do the reverse and serve to enflame and already insane region of the world.

In my eyes, the solution to preventing future terrorism is not to hire more police, but to change the mindset that created the forces that made the terrorists in the first place.

Easier said then done I realize, but the big stick idea won't work.
The carrot didn't really help either.

I don't think you understood clearly what I was expressing. I didn't say Iraq was behind the WTC attack. Read it again in the context that the doorstep statement was meant to be applied to organized government officials, not terrorists. I think maybe then you'll see what I mean. If not, feel free to disagree.
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