What a shame to see an argument form in my post

...however i do have to disagree with you sixate that you could stay with anyone who plays ultimate, I play basketball too with guys on my varsity team, and i hang with them every time. The real difference is, is that ultimate is the same amount of cutting as basketball, over a wider field, and with longer points. SHortest tournament games I've ever played was an hour and half, and that was a trouncing on our part. So, to rebute you, you may be able to play with the better players, I won't doubt that, but to say you wouldn't be tired.... HA!
