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Old 09-29-2003, 12:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
wry1
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Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Muad I think your criticism is off-base and targets more the Judeo-Influence that was central to the time and place of the Church's beginning. No decent human would argue for slavery or say women are inferior, and the Church has reformed accordingly to the norms of society outside of a few fundamental principles. And sure Chrisitian evangelism is annoying, it pisses me off and I am Catholic, but the christian faith (more importantly the catholic church) has learned many hard lessons about this. I think its unfair that you are forsaking an entire system of beliefs on the actions of an extreme minority.
Mojo, have you been paying attention to the history of the past thousand years or so??? The Pope brokered the treaty between the Spanish and the Portuguese which divided the New World into lands for these two to colonize, plunder and - sadly - use the native population in any manner that these countries saw fit. The Roman Catholic Church actively recruited for all of the Crusades....and made sure to get as much land placed in their holdings from the Nobility who signed up. It was Catholic missionaries which encouraged the slaughter of those native persons who refused to convert to Christianity, and it was the Church which again encouraged and profited from the Inquisitions.

So please, enlighten me. Just how is MuadDib mistaken? Let's take a look at the modern Church, shall we? What rights do women have under Church doctrine - or Canon Law, as it is sometimes referred to.... oops! None. They don't get to choose a damned thing in their lives or their bodies, and have to fight like hell if they're out for an annullment.

Sorry. I just don't see how you can make the case for a "reformed" Church. Hey, you're not Cardinal Law, are you???
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