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emidew22 · 09-22-2003, 12:43 PM

It seems like there are two issues here.
1. Should this girl be allowed to start her club?
2. Is it right for this girl to start a club celebrating white skin?

As far as the first question goes, of course she should be able to have her white person club. She's welcoming other races to join, so she's not really breaking standard school rules or anything. If she wants to get together with people of all ethnicities once a week and talk about how great it is to be white, then fine. It's her right to be able to peacefully congregate.

The second question is a bit trickier. And it can't be answered based on the info we've got. We don't know why she wants to start her club. Maybe she wants to retaliate against the black club. Maybe she wants to be able to get tips on which sun blocks work best for pastey skins. My guess is that she's trying to make a point, but since i don't know for sure, i can't really say whether or not she should be doing this.

I do agree with Sledge though. Having a white club seems silly to me, seeing as how being white is probably the only thing that memebers would have in common. Probably most members would have different cultures and different opinions on president bush, and different family histories, and not all of them would like the chicken patty lunch days. But then isn't it a little racist to say that a black club is okay? Because that is to say that black people have much more in common than their skin color, that they all have the same cultures, and family histories, ect. Do all black people listen to rap? Has every single black person in america been personally discriminated against? Do all black people celebrate quanza? Do they all wear fubu? What about the white kid who listens to the same music as the black student union kids, and wears the same clothes, and gets followed around the drug store every time he's there, cause he looks like he might steal something? Doesn't he share the same culture, then, as the black student union kids, even though he's not black? When i was in high school i was friends with a girl from jamaica who listend to pink floyd and bought all her clothes from thrift shops. She would get harrassed by other black kids for not listening to "real black music" and not being part of the black students union. And she hated it when she was reffered to as "african american" seeing as how she concidered herself to be neither. So even though she was black, she didn't really have any thing in common with the memebers of the black student union. So are minority clubs really about promoting a culture? And in a way, don't they further separate whites and blacks, or majorities and minorities?

I guess what i'm getting at is that we are ignorant. All of us. And we need to learn more. And we need to stop looking at what people are, and instead at who people are. I know i'm young and i know i'm naiive, so i've probably said some things that make no sence. But i do know that, and that's why i want to know what other people think. If every one knew that they don't really know that much and therefor tried to understand where other people are coming from, i think issues like this wouldn't really exist. Am i wrong?

09-22-2003, 12:43 PM	#50 (permalink)
emidew22 Upright Location: Boston	It seems like there are two issues here. 1. Should this girl be allowed to start her club? 2. Is it right for this girl to start a club celebrating white skin? As far as the first question goes, of course she should be able to have her white person club. She's welcoming other races to join, so she's not really breaking standard school rules or anything. If she wants to get together with people of all ethnicities once a week and talk about how great it is to be white, then fine. It's her right to be able to peacefully congregate. The second question is a bit trickier. And it can't be answered based on the info we've got. We don't know why she wants to start her club. Maybe she wants to retaliate against the black club. Maybe she wants to be able to get tips on which sun blocks work best for pastey skins. My guess is that she's trying to make a point, but since i don't know for sure, i can't really say whether or not she should be doing this. I do agree with Sledge though. Having a white club seems silly to me, seeing as how being white is probably the only thing that memebers would have in common. Probably most members would have different cultures and different opinions on president bush, and different family histories, and not all of them would like the chicken patty lunch days. But then isn't it a little racist to say that a black club is okay? Because that is to say that black people have much more in common than their skin color, that they all have the same cultures, and family histories, ect. Do all black people listen to rap? Has every single black person in america been personally discriminated against? Do all black people celebrate quanza? Do they all wear fubu? What about the white kid who listens to the same music as the black student union kids, and wears the same clothes, and gets followed around the drug store every time he's there, cause he looks like he might steal something? Doesn't he share the same culture, then, as the black student union kids, even though he's not black? When i was in high school i was friends with a girl from jamaica who listend to pink floyd and bought all her clothes from thrift shops. She would get harrassed by other black kids for not listening to "real black music" and not being part of the black students union. And she hated it when she was reffered to as "african american" seeing as how she concidered herself to be neither. So even though she was black, she didn't really have any thing in common with the memebers of the black student union. So are minority clubs really about promoting a culture? And in a way, don't they further separate whites and blacks, or majorities and minorities? I guess what i'm getting at is that we are ignorant. All of us. And we need to learn more. And we need to stop looking at what people are, and instead at who people are. I know i'm young and i know i'm naiive, so i've probably said some things that make no sence. But i do know that, and that's why i want to know what other people think. If every one knew that they don't really know that much and therefor tried to understand where other people are coming from, i think issues like this wouldn't really exist. Am i wrong?