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Lebell · 09-13-2003, 08:09 PM

Raw Kuts:

Please.

We both know you are playing word games and we both know that if the priest had known what the director intended, the movie would never have been shot in the church. So the director had to hide what he really wanted to do.

Art,

I don't disagree with anything you've said, but what is not being said or acknowledged, is that the 'church' is not some monolithic institution, but is made up of people.

Consider, when someone cuts you off in traffic, do you feel justified cutting off someone else, someone who has done nothing to you? No, of course not. The mature person does not pass on a hurt and take revenge on someone who has done them no harm.

Well, that is what the justification of this desecration amounts to, as far as I can see.

People here have either been hurt by some church figure or figures or are suffering from rightous indignation in lieu, and so they feel that it is ok to "stick it to the church, ANY church".

What is being ignored is that there is a parish in Italy composed of real people, just like you and me and they go to their church to practice their beliefs. Now those people are victims of an unscrupulous group of people who lied to make money off of them and trampled on what they held sacred.

And on TFP, we have people cheering, because they feel 'the church' deserves it.

Well, inspite of whatever has been suffered by those present, they have not suffered one IOTA of harm from those people in that parish. So those people did NOT deserve this and the cheering ISN'T right.

I say this as a person who has my own set of issues with the Catholic church hierarchy, but I can also understand with whom those issues lie.

09-13-2003, 08:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Raw Kuts: Please. We both know you are playing word games and we both know that if the priest had known what the director intended, the movie would never have been shot in the church. So the director had to hide what he really wanted to do. Art, I don't disagree with anything you've said, but what is not being said or acknowledged, is that the 'church' is not some monolithic institution, but is made up of people. Consider, when someone cuts you off in traffic, do you feel justified cutting off someone else, someone who has done nothing to you? No, of course not. The mature person does not pass on a hurt and take revenge on someone who has done them no harm. Well, that is what the justification of this desecration amounts to, as far as I can see. People here have either been hurt by some church figure or figures or are suffering from rightous indignation in lieu, and so they feel that it is ok to "stick it to the church, ANY church". What is being ignored is that there is a parish in Italy composed of real people, just like you and me and they go to their church to practice their beliefs. Now those people are victims of an unscrupulous group of people who lied to make money off of them and trampled on what they held sacred. And on TFP, we have people cheering, because they feel 'the church' deserves it. Well, inspite of whatever has been suffered by those present, they have not suffered one IOTA of harm from those people in that parish. So those people did NOT deserve this and the cheering ISN'T right. I say this as a person who has my own set of issues with the Catholic church hierarchy, but I can also understand with whom those issues lie. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!