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Old 09-04-2003, 08:59 AM   #24 (permalink)
Darkblack
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Originally posted by Darkblack

Please document cases where people new trouble was coming and drew their gun before hand. Also document whether or not they were arrested for pulling a gun in public for no reason. You cannot draw your weapon without do cause.

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http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles/165476.pdf


hehe did you read the link you provided? One, there are no examples of gun use as a means of defending ones self, two it states that most of the surveys done were done by phone. The person was asked if they had used their weapon in a defensive way in the last year. With a phone conversation there was no way to know whether or not the victim who drew their weapon started the fight or was actually a victim at all.

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I guarantee you that if you are within distance to mug me I can disarm you before you could shoot me.

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Nonsense. With a gun I can choose the range at which the encounter occurs. With your body you cannot. Plus, you discount the fact that I have been properly and extensively trained in the use of a handgun in tactical situations. A large part of that is point shooting, weapons retention, and use of a pistol in close combat. Granted, most people do not have that level of training, but it isn't very hard to shoot someone off of your pistol...
Maybe you do not understand what I am saying. If you are the attacker then yeah, you can choose the distance. I am not talking about using a gun to attack people. I am talking about some guy pushes you into an ally at gunpoint and he wants your fucking wallet. How is your gun going to save you?

I can see how your gun can be useful if you hear someone in your back yard and want to scare him or her off. The visual effect of you holding a gun is great. Works well. I am not arguing that.


Now if someone is mugging you, they usually are within arms distance because they want you to hand them stuff, they want to pat you down and see if you got anything they want. So, when they pat you down they get a new gun. This is what I am talking about. Can you comment on this please?
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