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shakran · 08-07-2003, 08:13 PM

"Either way, I'm outraged to find that the level of civilisation in our world is even lower than I had estimated. Something has to happen here. The african continent, if anything, should be the worlds focal point for the next years."

No, no, no, and no! Have we (meaning the USA) learned nothing from our foriegn policy bungles throughout history? Sticking our nose into the problems of other countries simply does not work. Viet Nam is only the most visible of the disasters we've caused. Afghanistan is our fault (we funded and trained bin Laden and his boys so he could defeat the Soviets), Iran is our fault (We arranged to remove the democratically elected leader and replaced him with the Shah - great move eh?), Iraq is our fault (We armed, funded, and trained Saddam so he could fight the Iranian government we put in place). Ever seen Black Hawk Down? Great idea to be in Mogadishu!

We're now in Afghanistan failing to complete our real mission (find bin Laden and all of his fellow terrorists) because we're in Iraq on a BS mission (Saddam was NOT a threat to us AT ALL, and Saudi Arabia, not Iraq, is the hotbed of Arabic terrorism) which we're also failing at (still don't have Saddam, still don't have control of Iraq, still haven't found the fictional Weapons of Mass Destruction), and we're moving into Liberia (Duh! We're stretched thin enough as it is!) I for one am tired of seeing people who signed up to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY get killed fighting wars that have nothing to do with defending our country!

The focus of the USA should be in cleaning up its own back yard. Get out of the foriegn countries that don't give a damn about us (what have we gained from the first Gulf War other than a larger debt and soldiers who are either dead or suffering from Gulf War Syndrome?). What we should be doing is worrying about our own domestic problems - homelessness, joblessness, poverty, the rampant murder rate, and many other issues which we're ignoring in favor of messing around where we don't belong.

As bad as the situation in the Congo may be, intervention from the USA or the UN could only make it worse - after all it's essentially a civil war. What would the USA have done had a foriegn country tried to step in during OUR Civil war? We'd have kicked their asses, then gone right back to fighting each other. That concept added to the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs right now and simply cannot afford yet another global conflict means we should adopt a far more isolationist policy than we have had since before world war 2.

08-07-2003, 08:13 PM	#24 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	"Either way, I'm outraged to find that the level of civilisation in our world is even lower than I had estimated. Something has to happen here. The african continent, if anything, should be the worlds focal point for the next years." No, no, no, and no! Have we (meaning the USA) learned nothing from our foriegn policy bungles throughout history? Sticking our nose into the problems of other countries simply does not work. Viet Nam is only the most visible of the disasters we've caused. Afghanistan is our fault (we funded and trained bin Laden and his boys so he could defeat the Soviets), Iran is our fault (We arranged to remove the democratically elected leader and replaced him with the Shah - great move eh?), Iraq is our fault (We armed, funded, and trained Saddam so he could fight the Iranian government we put in place). Ever seen Black Hawk Down? Great idea to be in Mogadishu! We're now in Afghanistan failing to complete our real mission (find bin Laden and all of his fellow terrorists) because we're in Iraq on a BS mission (Saddam was NOT a threat to us AT ALL, and Saudi Arabia, not Iraq, is the hotbed of Arabic terrorism) which we're also failing at (still don't have Saddam, still don't have control of Iraq, still haven't found the fictional Weapons of Mass Destruction), and we're moving into Liberia (Duh! We're stretched thin enough as it is!) I for one am tired of seeing people who signed up to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY get killed fighting wars that have nothing to do with defending our country! The focus of the USA should be in cleaning up its own back yard. Get out of the foriegn countries that don't give a damn about us (what have we gained from the first Gulf War other than a larger debt and soldiers who are either dead or suffering from Gulf War Syndrome?). What we should be doing is worrying about our own domestic problems - homelessness, joblessness, poverty, the rampant murder rate, and many other issues which we're ignoring in favor of messing around where we don't belong. As bad as the situation in the Congo may be, intervention from the USA or the UN could only make it worse - after all it's essentially a civil war. What would the USA have done had a foriegn country tried to step in during OUR Civil war? We'd have kicked their asses, then gone right back to fighting each other. That concept added to the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs right now and simply cannot afford yet another global conflict means we should adopt a far more isolationist policy than we have had since before world war 2.