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Old 04-22-2003, 11:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally posted by phoenix1002
BBtB, my only problem with that idea is that I think that the wealthy upper class (and mostly white) students would end up going to one school, while the lower income students (which often times are minorities) would end up going to another. This is because one school would be better than the other, so people would choose to go to it. The people who could not choose, because they had to go to the school closer to them, would get stuck going to the poorer-quality school.

Fairfield High is primarily white upper-middle to upper class students. There were probably 10-20 black kids out of the 3000+ students in the school. It is generally assumed that everyone going to this school will go to college. Many of them are given a new car on their 16th birthday.

Drive about 4 or 5 blocks into Bridgeport. Bassick High School is probably 90% black, and 95% minorities. I think something like 50% of the students go on to college. Most of them are lucky if their family has a car.
See the thing is you say you don't want any one but the goverment in control of schools because you are afraid that poorer students will get poorer learning then you go on to point out that that is exactly what the goverment has allready done with schools.

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Originally posted by onesnowyowl
BBtB, in Oregon, schools essentially have to do just that--compete for students. Each student comes with a dollar amount on their head--the more students, the more dollars for the school district. The state funding model was redesigned in the early 1990s to have more "equality" across the board between small and big school district. The problem is, the small school districts budgets are being drained by students with special needs/disabilities, despite the fact they come with extra money. The larger school districts require--supposedly--larger bureaucracies that drain dollars away from the classroom. Such a funding model is not practical, nor is it advisable. Oregon students suffered before the budget cuts, and they'll be suffering after, because of the state funding model. It's ineffecient and wasteful.
Even low budget schools would do better with private organizations in charge. The goverment is like the worst handler of money there is. They waste so much money. Most schools don't need (much) more funding. They just need better handling of the money they recieve now.

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- morality (blue) laws, such as sodomy laws, liquor store sales on Sunday, abortion, marijuana (but strictly regulated)
The problem with getting rid of the morality laws is which ones do we get rid of? I mean what about child porn and rape? Those are both basically outlawed based on the morality of it.
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