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Old 07-15-2011, 05:39 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by thirtiesgirl View Post
Poetry, I think you and I are soul sisters from another mother. You, however, have the gift of expressing yourself far better than I can. I've wondered exactly the same thing many a time. Not necessarily about FB, but about why so many guys think it's ok to approach women and the first thing out of their mouths is a comment on the physical.
Hehe, thanks. It comes from years of ranting on various topics. The last couple years have been focused on ranting on sexual dynamics, gender roles, and internet interactions.

I know guys focus on the physical. I know there's a supposed biological reason for this which sounds pretty logical to me. I just wish that, like you said, more of them had any chutzpah to go along with their lust.
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As far as what to do about it... I honestly have no idea, other than hitting the ignore button, as previously suggested. But I think it's a valid point to discuss and I'm glad to read that you brought it up on FB, and sparked an interesting discussion here.
I don't really think there's anything to do about it. It's very much like Lindy said... leave, or get used to pressing ignore.

But it's a bit disheartening to let yourself get chased off by a slew of "hey, you're hot... how about Tuesday"-type messages.

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1. Men like having sex with women and will often try to accomplish this.
2. This is one of the things wrong with men.
Here, let me fix this.

1. Men like having sex with women and will often try to accomplish this.

1.5. Men will engage in various levels of asshattery in their attempts to engage in sex, a portion of that population either ignorant willfully disregarding of other people's comfort zones and personal space, showing a total lack of intelligence and awareness with the first, making them undesirable mates or showing a total lack of respect for another human being with the latter.

1.6. The internet causes a level of social disassociation with the intended victim of the man's affections, making the disrespect or ignorance magnified.

1.7. Some men justify this behavior, whether online or off, by saying the girl was asking for it because of a short skirt or a duck-face.

1.8. Men really like duck-faces.

2. This is one of the things wrong with how some men are socialized.


As for some solutions?

How about education?

How about teaching personal responsibility and awareness in school?

How about we stop assigning social value to sex like it's a precious commodity? (I continue to think that this would solve god knows how many social-sexual problems.)

How about we "allow" women to set their own standards for partners and not call them cunts if they turn a man down because they know they're better than a "hey, nice pics" or "hey, nice tits" message?

How about we teach men about seduction and sex, give them something to work with? Show them where boundaries lie, how to read their potential partner? And tell women that it's okay to have sex with someone without having a serious relationship with them?

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Well, that brings up another good point: all men are rapists.

Though I should point out that not all men are active rapists, nor do all men act on their rapist natures. I, for one, have never acted on this aspect of my nature
I don't think that's verbally accurate.

That's like saying I'm a surgeon because I can cut someone open with a knife. Or, something less aggressive sounding, that's like saying I'm a football player when I've never touched a football, but have the potential to throw one around.

All men are potential rapists.

All women could be potential rapists of men, but one of the American's government data bases that collects information on rape to show the country's statistics defines rape as something that happens to a woman... with a penis (fingers or other objects don't count), does not include anal or oral penile violations, does not count if it's a family member (that falls under incest), and does not count if she's under age (that's statutory).

And what's left is the statistic that is reported as the rate of rape in the US.

But to go back to the original rape-focused point... men cannot be rape victims, nor can women who rape other women (no penises!), in the US according to their statistic gatherings. Which really makes you wonder what the actual stats are.

Well, makes me wonder.

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Also, has there been a single female that has posted in this thread who has said they do not get these types of messages? I haven't seen one, but then I don't know everyone's gender.
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