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Old 01-24-2011, 01:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
KirStang
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Basically, the government restricts the ownership of firearms based on certain criteria. I'm not sure the framers would have wanted that, which is why I asked. "Shall not be infringed," and all that. I ask because if we can agree that it's appropriate to bar certain categories of people from owning firearms (not sure you agree with this), then why not restrict the interstate sale of arms privately as well if we can see the benefit?
As is true with most other constitutionally guaranteed rights, limitations are subject to levels of scrutiny. Scrutiny usually involves a balancing of the purported state interest, the degree to which the right is infringed on, whether the right is fundamental, whether the state interest can be accomplished through other means and other factors.

Interstate sales of arms are already regulated--even between private individuals. When selling to private individuals, I have always asked to see some form of State issued ID to verify that they're from the same state the sale is taking place in. Inter-state sales cannot take place absent a transfer through a FFL.

With respect to 'interstate commerce' that clause is so bent out of shape as to become comical (anything compounded enough will affect interstate commerce). I suppose you can construct an argument that state sales of guns will affect shipments of guns flowing around and make people fearful of travelling etc. etc. to get to close the gun show loophole.

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Do you know if he was using a "33" in his G19? It's the only logical explanation for the people with multiple wounds and the sheer number of people wounded. 9mil just doesn't that that type of penetration to explain it.
Unfortunately, Loughner did use a 33rd Glock magazine, which permitted him to shoot many, many times before reloading.

Unfortunately, many legislators are seizing on this fact to propose a new magazine capacity ban.

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My solution? Greater information sharing, especially when it comes to psychological problems. VA Tech shooter also had mental problems, and apparently so did Loughner. Too bad NCIS did not pick up on this--which is a failure of that system. NCIS should be made more robust to catch mental problems. (However, there comes up problems of say, seeking help for depression but fearing that you'll lose your guns that way).
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