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Old 01-10-2011, 08:46 AM   #51 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Jinn View Post

I'd rather be working towards OBVIOUS solutions (like preventing the marketing of a food that is demonstrably worse for children than smoking TO children WITH toys) than simply chanting the mantra of free markets and responsibility.
The obvious solution is to give low income people (low income people have higher obesity rates) better food choice.

It seems your assumption is that low income people have low cost alternatives to high fat/sugar/salt processed food. Ironically in this country lower fat/sugar/salt foods actually cost more???? Poor people can not afford a diet full of fresh fruit, lean meats and rich colorful vegetables. Your proposed solution does not address the problem.

In addition, low income people are less educated in terms of proper diet, and tasty food preparation using less harmful fats, less sugar and less salt. If we want to solve the obesity problem a focus on this will pay off, banning fast food won't. If people develop a taste for different food that is less fatty, less salty, less sugary - the market will respond. I remember when Mcdonald;s came out with their Mclean burger - it failed.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Jesus.....

How about satisfy the "free marketers" and those concerned with obesity in America: cancel the corn subsidies. Or better: redirect them into organic farmers of fruit and vegetables.
Right, we have government policies loaded with unintended consequences. I suggest that government stop with the micro-management of everything.

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
If I was a restaurateur, even if I was able to provide amazing food at incredible prices by doing good business, I'd never, ever be able to compete directly with McDonalds or Pizza Hut because they're dishonest, evil corporations that are uninterested in fair competition. One of the main ways they're unfair, aside from massive subsidies, tax loopholes, and a bought and paid for food and drug administration, is that they use incredibly low quality products in their food. Large amounts of bovine fecal matter in the meat quality. Fries that never rot quality. Let's say my restaurant served perfect food at highly competitive prices and I paid a fair wage to my workers. McDonalds moves in next door and I'm royally screwed even though their food is of incredibly low quality, their customer service is nonexistant, and the atmosphere is that of the DMV.
Big corporations cooperate with big government often to restrict competition by making it virtually impossible for new smaller businesses to fairly compete. You think it is all the big corporation, I don't. It is a partnership. all I have ever suggested is to even the playing field through free market concepts. I don't want government picking winners and losers.
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