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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I think he just "misunderestimates" the effectiveness of the American system of justice....that has resulted in the capturing of more alleged terrorists through legal criminal investigations than through detainment and torture in black prisons and prosecuting those alleged according to due process and with evidence that was gathered according to law.
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I simply try to think things through to the logical conclusion. I can appreciate missing important points and some things that are obvious, it happens to the best. But, I don't run from my views and I defend them until I see a reason to change them. At this point I am not clear on what the disagreement is.
Do you think "show trials" are a perversion of justice in all cases?
Do you think the US Judicial system is too sophisticated for "show trials"?
Do you think our Constitution prevents "show trials"?
Do you think people don't get satisfation from "show trials"?
Is it that, it is distasteful to acknowledge what I present can be correct?
Do you need other examples of "show trials" to get beyond Stalin style "show trials"?
Restate the issue.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
um, not to my understanding. There may be another term for trials that are slanted toward a pre-determined not-guilty verdict, but it's always been my understanding that 'show trials' were ones in which a guilty verdict was pre-determined and the court proceedings are played out in a way which makes possible no other conclusion. Kind of like Alice in the Queen of Hearts court, lol.
Not that it matters really. Quibbling.
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I think your definition is too narrow. I presented how I define the concept - and predetermination is key but in my mind it can be guilt or innocence. Also, to me the another important component is the goal of sending a message trumping justice.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I have no idea what you mean by an evolving matter,
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With new and more information we can make better decisions. For example given the results of this trial I suspect any non-US citizen being with at Gitmo will be given a military trial. There should be no more thought or consideration of trying high value known terrorists as if they are criminals in US courts.