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Old 10-27-2010, 08:07 AM   #83 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
are you implying that you asked me a simple and direct question? perhaps you might go back and re-read your obviously vague and indirect question.
Post #58.

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I'll reiterate my point just because I'm waiting for the oven alarm to go off and have nothing else to do. The liberal movement in this country has no power and no means of attaining legitimate power. We are simply not built into the system.
I think our President is liberal. I think Obama, as a liberal, holds the most powerful office in the world.

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Therefore, we are no threat to you.
For example, I want a choice to eat whatever kind of fatty, sugery, salty, foods I want, there are liberals in some major cities like NY where some people, I would call them liberals, want to restrict my right.


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The 'liberal war' is a fiction created by an entertainment monolith that finds it very profitable to convince you of a liberal war.
Talk to Obama and the people who cheer him on. Obama has singled out Fox News, conservative talk radio, specific commentators as an enemy of the liberal agenda.

There are the bitter clingers to guns and religion, perhaps they are not the enemy, but just to stupid to understand.

And, now there is the Chamber of Commerce, you know the balding, potbellied, il fitted suit wearing, middle-aged business men with a liking of rubbery chicken lunches, who are going to end democracy as we know it in cooperation with anonymous foreign donors.

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Therefore you are a sucker, maybe even at this point a stooge. That is the essence of my argument and no amount of pie charts or ominous editorials indicating a forthcoming socialist revolution headed by the venerable (and maleficent) George Soros is going to convince me that your behavior indicates anything other than a particularly poignant SNL skit. Really, you can go have a cocktail. The war ended about 70 years ago.
Just to try to elaborate on the importance of the points I have been making, think about what lead us to the Iraq war.

I feared Saddam was a threat and would use WMD on innocent people. Many others shared my fear, including Bush. Over and over Bush communicated this fear in clear plain language. Anti-war liberals ignored this, to the point of when Bush asked Congress for authorization to use military force - they did not believe he would actually use it. They were surprised and shocked, or at least that is what they said. So, it seems to me that you think I am a sucker for saying we need to openly and honestly deal with fear. If that is how you define a sucker, I am guilty as charged and I am proud to be one.

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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
i think we get it, ace. you, as a far right kinda guy, need to normalize racism because you occupy a political viewpoint from which this might seem reasonable:
My preference would be that racism end. I have not suffered the way my father has but I have paid a price for my race. My 13 year old son is becoming of an age when many in the world will fear him simply because of his age and skin color. Why on earth you think I would want to normalize racism is beyond belief, especially if you read what I write.

I talk and write about my fears and biases because I seek to become a better person. I engage the liberal point of view to try to get a better understanding. What I do, works, what I suggest about open and honest communication, works. but the first step is for people to be willing to acknowledge their fears and biases. Do you have any?
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