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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
If you cut and paste three word quotes you can make almost anything up. I think it is quite clear what I have said, and it is pretty hard for anyone to dispute it
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SF, the entire thread is right here in plain english, and anyone who can read can see you've changed your claims repeatedly. I've done nothing to distort the meaning of the words in those quotes. Your repeated moving of the goal posts is not going unnoticed by everyone reading this thread, and your claims that you aren't doing so, intentionally or not, are plain out bullshit--at this point there is no other word for it.
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The Desert Eagle is the best designed weapon in its class in terms of its appearance. This is subjective, and some would disagree - but the fact that so many video games and movies use this shooter it shows that a lot of people agree with me
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You are claiming something you admit is subjective as an objective fact, and then providing irrelevant evidence. It's a distinctive pistol, and is visually identifiable due to being so big and clunky...that's mostly why they're used in media. However, that has nothing to do with its quality or performance.
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The Desert Eagle is the maximum power range of a single handed pistol.
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No, it isn't, even ignoring the 'single handed' quip. You are wrong--'power' isn't some arbitrary thing we can wax philosophical about, it's a force measured in foot-pounds. Reread the post by The_Dunaden--in it he points out:
Desert Eagle with 50AE: 1229 ft/lbs
Smith & Wesson X-Frame in .500: 3031 ft/lbs
In black and white, the X-Frame has almost 3 times as much power as the Desert Eagle. Done. End of story. No room for argument.
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There may be some very expensive and specially modified guns that have theoretically more power, but the Desert E has as much power as it is materally comprehensible for a firearm of this kind to possess
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I thought you were claiming price was no object, and derided people who needed to take things like cost into account (purchases of lesser Austrian guns, I think you said) as not the target market for the DE.
In any case, you're wrong about this, too. Here's a link to two currently for sale for price comparison:
An X Frame .500 for $1125 "buy it now":
Smith&Wesson Model 500 X-Frame : Revolvers at GunBroker.com
A Desert Eagle in 50AE for $1500 "buy it now":
Magnum Research Desert Eagle Polished 50 AE .50 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com
So no, you are wrong about this also.
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I state quite simply that the Desert E is the best in these criteria, which are the criteria it iself aims to be judged by
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So, in this post, you've narrowed your criteria for the DE being the "best" to something we can objectively discuss, that is:
1) Most attractive design (completely subjective)
2) Most powerful (completely false)
At least you've defined your terms concretely now, in phrasing which will make it hard to backpedal from.
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Because it is made by IWI it also happens to be exceptionally well engineered.
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It wasn't engineered by IWI. It was engineered by Magnum Research. And it is a design with some inherent flaws which have been pointed out.
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As a target practice pistol is it the best? No
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It would appear I'm just trying to be contrary now, but long range pistol target practice is one of the few uses for it that I would consider it well suited and totally legitimate. So we disagree about this as well.
Finally, I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say in your contorted vibrator analogy (clearly mine went over your head), so I won't even bother quoting it.