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Old 04-14-2010, 07:30 AM   #51 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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i'd say training is required by the constitution (well regulated militia)
If you were referring to training with militia arms (full-auto shoulder arms, field artillery, ATGMs, etc) you would be half-right; the Constitution calls for Congress to provide for the training of the militia. However, nowhere does the Constitution say that such training is or should be mandatory (although the Militia Act gets close), that it has any bearing upon the right of the people to keep and bear non-militia arms, or that any presence or lack of training has any bearing on the ability of a person to exercise their rights. Again, imagine having to get "proper training" before you could write or read a book.

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but you can continue to ignore that point (since it goes against your assertions that the 2nd amendment is a limitless right)
I do not ignore it, I discount as incorrect, invalid, and formed from within a paradigm of culturally-imperialist leftism which holds that all Rights are subject to popular fiat and State approval, and that the rights of some groups are more important that identical rights for other groups. All of the aforementioned I regard as, at best: dangerous, poorly thought-out, and prone towards every variety of the same totalitarian excesses produced by the Statist right. The recent calls from various leftist commentators (HuffPo, the Tea Party Crashers (infiltrators) etc.) calling for the imprisonment, extraordinary rendition, torture and disenfranchisement of their political opponents is proof of this.
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