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Originally Posted by ratbastid
To be crystal clear: the above category doesn't include me. I'd be surprised if you could find one person on TFP who had zero policy differences with Obama.
One MAJOR approach the right has taken is to put "Obama is perfect" in the mouths of anyone who's not on the right. Ever since the primary, when they started saying he was "your messiah". It's manipulative bullshit, pan. Don't get sucked into it.
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Ah, but people here did the exact same thing to Bush followers. I was one and at the time I did so won some acclaim from people here who now can't stand my posts and do all they can to make sure they point out some of my foolhardiness.
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EDIT: BTW, pan, when I say "the right", I'm clear I'm not talking about you. You're your own critter. For a while you looked to me like a good liberal but I know better than to think that now. 
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There is a difference between a "liberal" of the 80's and Clinton era and now. Hell, Clinton here has been called a full moderate. LOL
And I have said before on numerous occasions and while somethings have been pointed out this for whatever reason doesn't. I am my own critter (as you point out), I have my own warped, foolhardy, weird, wild extremist views. (I am neither left nor right in my views, I consider myself socially liberal, fiscally conservative with a sense of patriotism and belief the US needs to work on itself and fix itself first, then help the rest of the world.)
Beyond that, there are things where I can bring out truly good points, I can bring out points that will be heated on one side or the other... or I can just fuck with people so I don't get loopholed into any one belief.
My goal is to find people that freely think for themselves and stop using "talking" points or seemingly post whatever to try to "show their intelligence and win some form of praise from whichever "clique" they are trying to impress here. If I found someone that truly didn't give a fuck how they appeared to others here and truly spoke their own beliefs (no talking points, no BS polls or data that can be swayed because both sides manipulate facts to benefit themselves), I would probably have a great talk and honest debate with. And probably have a good friend in the end.
But in the end I am someone who loves my country and believes it can do better. However, I firmly believe we are in the midst of the Barrack Room Emperors" W being the first Obama being the second. And yes, to me they are one in the same. They may have different items that they push and sell to different groups, but in the end Iraq, Afghanistan, Oil, minimum wage, programs to help people advance, the infrastructure, Federal Reserve, deficits and so on remain relatively unchanged. Just a different wrapping paper and sales technique.
Just MY opinion. I'm sure people here will jump all over it to prove me wrong, just as W people did the same thing 6 years ago.
Anyway, people will think what they want. Truth is I don't care, I will be who I am, warped as I am.