Originally Posted by pan6467

How was Clinton any of those things? Why, because he didn't change them enough? He was left-centrist and was willing to listen to the other side, but he was liberal in many aspects also.

I found Clinton socially liberal and to a degree the best president in my lifetime. The ONLY problem with Clinton was the GOP did all they could to destroy him and made it impossible for him to get anything done. But as a LEADER he was damned good, he inspired and kept a positive tone in most of his time. He could have gone back and tried to attack the GOP (Gingrich was having his own affairs) but he didn't. He did what he could and he IMHO did the best job possible.

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I disagree. It is only obvious to those with Obama blinders on. I stand by my statement that W was the first true Barrack Room Emporer and Obama is taking it further.

You can't have a nation going one way and slam on the brakes and go in a completely different direction and expect the masses to be ok with that. It just doesn't happen. Takes time and compromise and I don't see that from Obama.

In my mind he is every bit as bad if not worse than W. He just is doing it in a different way, but the results are the same.