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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
[...]a land that's free to not allow access to 30 million citizens to basic health care because they cant afford insurance so they should die.
Wow, that's a dramatic statement. Talk about blurring the lines of reality. I won't speak for everyone opposed to federal government healthcare, but I can say with great certainty that I don't think they should die. Unfortunately, they will though. So will you. So will I.
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i'm just working with the conservative arguments, trying to figure out what they're really on about by swapping out the screen-claims for what's actually happening. that's where things arrive. it's a simple logical procedure.
my own views are quite different from this. i think the existing law went nowhere near far enough. i support free universal access to basic health care as a fundamental human right. i think the debate was badly framed not only in political and ethical terms, but also in that the english/canadian model was posited as the only alternative to the american and that simply on the basis of linguistic chauvinism so far as i can tell. the french system is far more flexible, far better in terms of service delivery and is a more viable alternative than the single payer. but that wasn't the debate. language chauvinism is a pitiful thing to allow to control central aspects of a debate this important, but there we are.
i think the communications strategy about this whole thing was a fiasco.
i think the fact that **anyone** is listening to conservative dissociation in opposition to this legislation at this point is testimony to just how badly done was the framing of this issue.
and i think the right is becoming genuinely dangerous at this point. were i in power, things would be getting ugly. i do not believe there should be a tolerance for fascism on free speech grounds. i do not believe racism should be understood as acceptable speech. but that's just me.
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THE SOUL OF THIS COUNTRY IS ROTTING
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is drama queen horseshit.