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Old 03-24-2010, 10:52 AM   #172 (permalink)
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[...]a land that's free to not allow access to 30 million citizens to basic health care because they cant afford insurance so they should die.
Wow, that's a dramatic statement. Talk about blurring the lines of reality. I won't speak for everyone opposed to federal government healthcare, but I can say with great certainty that I don't think they should die. Unfortunately, they will though. So will you. So will I.
i'm just working with the conservative arguments, trying to figure out what they're really on about by swapping out the screen-claims for what's actually happening. that's where things arrive. it's a simple logical procedure.

my own views are quite different from this. i think the existing law went nowhere near far enough. i support free universal access to basic health care as a fundamental human right. i think the debate was badly framed not only in political and ethical terms, but also in that the english/canadian model was posited as the only alternative to the american and that simply on the basis of linguistic chauvinism so far as i can tell. the french system is far more flexible, far better in terms of service delivery and is a more viable alternative than the single payer. but that wasn't the debate. language chauvinism is a pitiful thing to allow to control central aspects of a debate this important, but there we are.

i think the communications strategy about this whole thing was a fiasco.
i think the fact that **anyone** is listening to conservative dissociation in opposition to this legislation at this point is testimony to just how badly done was the framing of this issue.

and i think the right is becoming genuinely dangerous at this point. were i in power, things would be getting ugly. i do not believe there should be a tolerance for fascism on free speech grounds. i do not believe racism should be understood as acceptable speech. but that's just me.

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is drama queen horseshit.
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