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Old 06-13-2003, 09:20 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Let's see how genius you believe the founding fathers to be now Dude ....

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"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever" -- Thomas Jefferson
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"You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention." -- George Washington
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"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge THE Providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and to humbly implore His protection and favor." -- George Washington
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" Let...statesmen and patriots unite their endeavors to renovate the age by...educating their little boys and girls...and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system." -- Sam Adams
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"History will also afford frequent opportunities of showing the necessity of a public religion...and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." -- Benjamin Franklin
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"We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that 'except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.' I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel." -- Benjamin Franklin, AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
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"Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only Law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited... What a paradise would this region be!" -- John Adams
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"Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a schoolbook? Its morals are pure, its examples are captivating and noble." He went on to say, "The reverence for the sacred book that is thus early impressed lasts long; and, probably, if not impressed in infancy, never takes firm hold of the mind." -- Fisher Ames, AUTHOR OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT, said as a congressman
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"The United States of America were no longer Colonies. They were an independent nation of Christians." -- John Quincy Adams
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I'm getting tired of seeing people reference the "genius" of the founding fathers in claiming dthat religion has no part effecting our government. Believe in freedom FROM religion all you want, but start a new movement for a new amendment then, because the current one assures freedom OF religion. One need only look to the person who WROTE IT to see that.

I'm all for working to get a new amendment in there that does what people wish to believe the first amendment does. That's the right of US citizens. But to intentionally misconstrue the intentions of the founding fathers - and then label them geniuses for it! Call them geniuses for what they intended, not what you wish they intended. And if you feel they left something out - such as the freedom FROM religion - work to get it put in. Don't accept people in goverment who are willing to ignore the intentions of the founding fathers and twist the meanings of their words in order to create a situation to their liking because it's easier than going about it the right way.

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