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Old 03-20-2010, 06:52 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467 View Post
Here's the wiki page that even shows that pre-existing is presently covered after a maximum 1 year.

Pre-existing condition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They also have the proposed terms on pre-existing and they actually look worse than what we have now. (With the exception of including domestic violence as a non pre-existing). Hell, in some cases they won't take effect for 4 years.

And they allow premiums to be raised because of the pre-existing conditions. Which, if you are going for true reform, pre-existing should not exist at all. If people have a disease or health problem and lose their job and get new insurance that condition should still be treated regardless.BUT it won't be.

I like what I have. 1 year no treatment afterward treatment as necessary.


All this talk from Obama and the Dems about pre-existing and they really are not doing anything to improve it. Again, if anything they are making it worse, punishing those people like myself who have a disease and may or may not need treated for it. Raising our premiums for it is better?
Sorry, pan....but you are just incorrect.

HIPAA provided some very small improvements in coverage for pre-existing conditions in the group (large employer-based) plan.

From the wiki:
he Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (Kassebaum-Kennedy Act) of 1996 (HIPAA) extended some minimal limits on pre-existing condition exclusions for all group health insurance plans—including the self-insured large group health insurance plans that cover half of those with employer-provided health insurance but are exempt from state insurance regulation
The HIPAA FAQ explains it better than the wiki.
Under HIPAA, a plan is allowed to look back only 6 months for a condition that was present before the start of coverage in a group health plan. Specifically, the law says that a preexisting condition exclusion can be imposed on a condition only if medical advice, diagnosis, care, or treatment was recommended or received during the 6 months prior to your enrollment date in the plan.
And, limits on excluding pre-existing conditions in the individual market is left to the states.

To suggest the bill "is not doing anything to improve it" or "making it worse" (wtf - please explain how you come to that conclusion) is just nonsense. It fixes both the group and individual markets in a significant and unambiguous way...and it starts with no more denying coverage of any preexisting conditions in children...in ALL new health plans starting 6 months after the bill is enacted.

Please tell me, how this, along with adding 30+ million (mostly young and healthy) will add to your premiums.
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