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Old 02-01-2010, 07:57 PM   #119 (permalink)
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more troll bait.
No, I'm taking your position and applying it to something more extreme to illustrate my issue with it. If you're unwilling or unable to respond, so be it, but please don't accuse me of trolling without taking a moment to even consider that you could have misunderstood what I posted or could even be wrong.
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murdering someone removes their rights.
If a woman accuses you of rape, you could very easily end up in jail where your rights are taken from you. The accusation of rape isn't as serious as murder, but the point, which you avoided, was that consequences and freedom are linked, and that in turn applies directly the freedom of speech.

Defamation is an exception to our freedom of speech. I cannot (in theory) be persecuted because I espouse radical beliefs which I voice because the First Amendment protects me. The spirit of the freedom of speech is I can speak out against those in power without fear of legal consequences. If, however, I commit defamation, or speaking directly harmful untruths with ill-intent, I should have a fear of legal consequences as defamation, while clearly speech, is not totally free. That was my point.
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