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Originally Posted by Jimellow
A friend of mine recently recommended Jack3d to me, and after doing research and various searches online, I wanted to create a thread here to get opinions from those that lifted weights and are familiar with the supplement.
For those not familiar, I've posted a few links that should get you up to speed, if interested:
[LIST][*]Bodybuilding.com's Jack3d product page:
[*]The nutrition label for Jack3d can be found here:
[*]I also came across an article that analyzes the ingredients and addresses potential negative issues that can arise from abuse of the substance. That can be found here:
I'd like this thread to be open and free flowing to all things Jack3d related, but I did have a few specific questions/concerns of my own:
- 1) Is the creatine found in Jack3d likely going to result in adding water mass to my body? In other words, by using Jack3d, will I be adding mass in the same way those that take creatine do, or are there different types of creatine?
2) How concerned should I be about Jack3d? The second article I listed indicates that there are multiple substances that very little is known about, and that alone generally causes red flags to go off in my experience. The article indicates that negative side effects are possible when the product is abused, but couldn't it also be dangerous if taken at recommended doses?
As of right now, I am taking whey protein, and nothing else. I eat well, lift regularly, and am healthy and in good shape. A friend recommended Jack3d as a way to increase the productivity of my workouts, but after doing research, it seems too good to be true, with the added risk of potential health concerns, or at least uncertainties.
To date, I've reached the health and fitness level I'm at through hard work and a healthy diet, and there is a nagging feeling that by starting to use Jack3d, I may be headed down a road I'm ultimately not interested in: one of unknown substances and health risks at the cost of my own well being and comfort.
I'm very stringent in regards to what I put into my body, and thus am leaning against taking Jack3d, but I wanted to create a thread and seek out further information and opinions. Thus, if you have any experience with the product, I'd appreciate you sharing your thoughts and opinion regarding its use. |
Hey Jimellow, I found this and thought I'd chime in. I'm actually the guy who runs the PricePlow.com site that you linked to for the ingredients image. If you actually look at our PricePlow page for Jack3d, you'll see that there's an even better deal on the stuff than at BB.com -priceplow.com/usplabs/jack3d
Anyway, I like Jack3d so much that I am in the process of designing a site DEDICATED to the product. It will be out in about a week at jack-3d.com
I believe that Jack3d is the real deal, but it honestly doesn't sound like it's for you. The 1,3 dimethylamylamine is amazing, and as long as you stay in low doses like Jack3d, you're fine. It behaves like a very weak amphetamine, great for lifting focus. It's the idiots in New Zealand who were snorting tons of the stuff and then drank a bottle of liquor while clubbing who killed themselves with it.
My issue though, is that you can't meter your doses. For instance, one scoop of Jack3d does not have enough beta alanine or creatine to make a huge difference. So if you're really trying to fine-tune things, you can just get caffeine and arginine and beta alanine pre-workout (and even add 10-25mg 1,3 dimeth, but it sounds like this is one you want to skip), and then do 5g creatine post-workout with some juice, then hit up the protein. An hour later, mealtime!
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, creatine monohydrate will bind to water and increase water mass to your muscles. But there is no doubt that it will help you add real muscle mass and increase power too. However, Jack3d doesn't have that much creatine in it. Creatine IS SAFE AND PROVEN EFFECTIVE. I take 5g first thing in the morning, 5g post-workout.
2. Long-term, we don't know enough about 1,3 dimeth or Schizandrol A. Creatine was argued about forever, but we now have long-term studies showing its efficacy and long-term safety. Who knows what we'll find out about these two drugs. The risk is yours.
That said, Jack3d puts you in the ZONE. For some, it's worth the limited risk. For others, you might just want to take a caffeine pill on days when you're feeling blah and be done with it.
Hope you guys don't mind my intrusion.
Jack