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Old 11-09-2009, 10:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Creationism to me is a social issue.
I wish it were that simple. Creationism is social, it's religious, it's philosophical, and it's political. It's "don't you dare let your reality touch my precious fantasy" across the entire spectrum of human interaction.
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I got myself into this mess when I decided to resume my casual studies on evolution and natural selection. I was shocked to see that this field of science is under direct attack by complete morons. The more I read the more outraged I became at the ignorance manifesting itself around this subject. It scares me see the Creationism movement permeating our political and social landscape.
Do something about it. If something as stupid as creationism comes out of the mouth of someone around you, go ahead and try to fix the person's incredible intellectual dishonesty and ignorance by refuting the simplistic fallacies and misrepresentations.
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"You know it's still called the theory of evolution. But they teach evolution in the Ontario curriculum, but they also could teach the fact to the children that there are other theories that people have out there that are part of some Christian beliefs." - John Tory, leader of the Ontario Conservative party.
The conservative leader's name is John Tory? That's interesting. Is the liberal leader's name Matthew Progressive?
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Every time I hear stuff like this my jaw drops and steam comes out of my ears. I want to tell myself that this is just a phase and all will pass but really feel like this is symptom of a much greater issue: ignorance is running rampant in our society.

I'm at a loss of what to do about it.
Seriously, if people are going to try and force ignorance on you, you're entitled to force truth on them. Don't be quiet if someone starts in on creationism. Speak up. If you can't answer a question, come back here and post it. I give you my personal guarantee that anything and everything a creationist says can be refuted with real, verifiable science. Some people do it for a living:

The questions I'm pursuing concerning the Creationism movement are:
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Is the pursuit of science obstructed?
Yes. The more time biologists, geologists, physicists, and other scientists have to defend very basic science to morons, the less time they get to spend on the good stuff, like curing diseases or creating a grand unified theory.
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Is this a case of blind leading the blind or a form social and political manipulation?
The creationist leadership is probably well aware that what they're selling isn't science. Yes, it's manipulation of the stupid by the corrupt.
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Will we see the rise of creationist astronomy, geology, physics?
It's already those things and more. How do you think astronomers respond to the idea that the entire universe is 6,014 years old? How do you think geologists respond when some moron suggests one 40-day flood carved the grand canyon? How do you think a physicist would respond to the idea that the universe blinked into existence because a mythological god wished it?

Creationism is an affront to all science (except maybe aceology and numismatics).
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