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Old 08-14-2009, 07:45 AM   #180 (permalink)
Cimarron29414
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
In fact, what Obama had said was that if he were to start from scratch, he would support a single payer system...but he also said repeatedly that the employer-based system works for the most part and the intent is to build on that foundation to make universal care more affordable and accesible.

Citing a handful of legislators who want a single payer system doesnt change the fact that the general proposal that Obama offered to Congress and the current bills under consideration are nowhere close to a single payer system.

There is no socialist type plan in the works.

Scare tactics.
This is simply not true. I hate to break the rules, but here's the link.


He clearly states that the goal is to create a public option that will eliminate the private option in 10,15,20 years.

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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
if you read the post you quoted, cimarron, you'd have understood that i didn't say *avoid* i said *enact the problem*--and by *enacting the problem* i meant grinding a coherent debate to a halt with a series of "plans" based entirely in some libertarian fantasy world and insisting that they be understood as actual plans, when the fact is they aren't.

this is now officially tiresome.
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