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Pankration, the predecessor of modern MMA, was at the Olympic games in 648 BC. I don't post this to argue the points of this thread, because I see that is pointless because something can't be discussed between two people if only one person is listening. I post because I figure someone will find that interesting to learn more about, and appreciate it.
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"The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand)
"The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)
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