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Old 06-22-2009, 06:03 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Charlatan View Post
Squeeb and Shauk... post what you like. You just need to be aware that not everyone is going to agree with you (or if they do, they may not have your back on some topics). If you are going to take a controversial stance, you need to have some very thick skin. Some people are not just going to read something controversial and roll-over.

Be ready to defend your position or change your opinion if your original stance doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

For example, if you are going to defend racism (a touchy topic) you'd better bring your A game or be ready to let shit roll off your back.
Yes.

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Originally Posted by squeeeb View Post
agreed 100%

i don't think he was trying to defend racism though, i think he just posed the question poorly. instead of trying to figure out what he was asking, it appeared they jumped to conclusions.

i have re-re-re-re-re read the OP, and i'm being serious when i say i'm not all that bright, i'm kinda stupid. i honestly do not see where he "defends racism." i think he was misunderstood. makes people skittish about posting what is on their mind if they are gonna be misunderstood and have to defend a point they didn't even make.
Yes. But I hope you see where the collective's misunderstanding came from the unclear OP. Is it about music? Something else entirely?

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Originally Posted by Charlatan View Post
Shauk... it isn't about dumbing it down, it's about clarity.

The fact that just about everyone (including those who have been supporting you) is not clear on what you are saying speaks volumes about your post. Had you simply stated, "has racism changed from the 50s to today" rather than your post, it would have been clear and to the point. You didn't do that.

Clarity is important.

My read on your thread suggested that you were looking for a way to justify racism today. -- People can see the worst side of black culture in HipHop music videos, therefore someone is justified in being racist. -- That interpretation was reached by more than one or two people.

I think it really is your job to clarify your position rather simply throw your hands in the air crying that you are misunderstood.

Charlatan apparently has a much better idea of what it is you want to say. I still don't quite know what it is. As I've said elsewhere, I think you might have a very interesting topic and an interesting approach to it, but you haven't made it clear. I think you needed to think it through to make the OP easier for us to understand. It's not about "dumbing it down", it's about framing a discussion in a way that leads in an obvious direction. You didn't do that.
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