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Tiller wasn't performing an abortion when he was assassinated. That's the bottom line.
Let me put it this way. Let's say that I punch someone in the face in front of you. Two weeks later, you punch me back. Was that self-defense?
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So if Roeder would have killed Tiller whilst he was performing an abortion that would make it "more acceptable"? I doubt it. Of course, that wasn't the point at all. I was merely pointing out that the fact that Roeder considered himself to be acting in self-defense of the unborn, if convicted, and that the assertion that self-defense only applies to oneself to be patently false.
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My point is that you should be careful assigning him rational motivations. His fixation on Tiller was likely the same as many people's: Tiller was a figurehead for doctors willing to perform abortions. And it didn't have anything at all to do with the thing I'd be glad to discuss with you in the other thread.
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But you're the one assigning complex motives to Roeder outside of him killing Tiller for practices he considered to be wrong (Which is what I said at the beginning of this thread and which what the blurb you posted also showed).
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I'll make a deal with you. I won't condescend to you anymore and you won't condescend to me. It's counterproductive.
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It wasn't meant to be condescending at all.
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Again, you're assigning a logical thought process to the terrorist. I see no reason to do so.
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And, again, you're referring to him as a terrorist when he is not, nor has he been prosecuted as such nor has any body found him to be deserving of such a title except for those who like to throw out pejoratives for personal reasons.
I know he "isn't well". No one's ever denied this. But that doesn't make him a terrorist. It makes him a man who committed a violent act against an abortion provider. People who commit violent acts aren't instantly terrorists. To be a terrorist there has to be an intent to influence policy through violence, fear or any otherwise unlawful means. Constantly referring to the guy as a terrorist does nothing but cheapen your own argument. That word is thrown around way too often nowadays.