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ace---at this point, we're entering the outer reaches of the endgame of this debate. you've been presented with more than enough information and arguments from a variety of folk to effectively rebut your position. it's hard to say what your motivation is in refusing to see the tactical situation you're in---maybe because there's no particular rules of debate here so folk can decide as they like where things are. but to my mind, your position is entirely untenable and debate is finished.
maybe start another thread using different (hopefully, for your sake, stronger) material, or introduce something else.
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