Originally Posted by Willravel

We tortured to establish a lie, that Iraq was connected to 9/11. You say you're "fine" with torture in the context of war, but are you fine with torture to intentionally extract unconfirmed supposition or outright falsehood? Are you really fine with torture being used to form the basis of the great lie that leads us to war with someone that wasn't going to attack us? How far into this corner are you really willing to paint yourself?