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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Given, torture does not work. Given torture is illegal.
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These are going to have to stop being hypothetical assumptions. You're going to collapse under the weight of evidence eventually. It's not a matter of if at this point but when.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
If I am one of your field CIA agents and your are President, and I report that I have obtained information of an impending attack that could kill innocent people from a captured terrorist using enhanced questioning techniques that you consider torture what are you going to do?
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Considering that I've gotten reliable and consistent answers to the torture question from the foremost experienced experts in the world, I report you immediately. I can't have a rogue field agent using techniques that are demonstrably illegal and worse still useless. It doesn't even matter what I consider torture, that will be up to the appropriate tribunal, judge, or jury.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Do you have the DOJ bring charges against me?
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There are quite a few variables in this situation, so while I believe you'd be under DOJ jurisdiction, I'm not 100% sure. But yes, I'd report you to the appropriate authorities immediately.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Do you act on the information?
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I'll act on information from a reliable interrogator. Since I'm like 96% sure we're not all in an episode of 24, I won't be acting on information from a rogue agent that tortures detainees.
BTW, I've come up with a possible definition for torture you keep asking for:
If, at any time in the history of the US, we have charged a citizen or non-citizen for the act of torture, henceforth shall that act or those acts be considered torture. Example: we convicted several Japanese soldiers of torture for waterboarded US soldiers during WWII, therefore waterboarding is torture. This will prevent us from being massive hypocrites; it'll keep us honest.