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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
In terms of my own view, rather than just talking about the law...
I think there is a matter of degree. In terms of someone being whipped... if someone is flogged and badly hurt (ie - lasting marks, broken skin, broken bones) - I think thats assault even if they asked for it.
If someone is hit on the arse with a paddle to sting and redden the skin but cause no lasting injury, I think common sense says that thats probably not an assault - IF there is consent, although it is an action that clearly can cause emotional damage and humiliation even if there is no real physical harm done and this needs to be taken into account.
In terms of gender, I guess we have to be realistic. I cannot say, 100% that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a woman to assault a man, and Im am sure someone can quote me an example of it, but in real life we all probably understand that instances of that are pretty rare. Most of the cases of assault within relationships are unfortunately males attacking women, and in my view the law has to be heavy with these criminals. If a woman does assault a man, and real harm is done, that woman should be punished - but we probably do have to consider is society served by women (often mothers) being thrown in jail? In the worst cases there is no choice, but we should more careful about handing out grey days to a woman than to some thug who beats up his girlfriend.
I understand some people find his sexist, but in my view if a woman is assaulting a man (1) the assault is likely to be less serious and (2) there are far more likely to be aggrivating factors and (3) the woman may have emotional problems which are better addressed through counselling and community service.
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I just don't see how you can draw a line between one type of pain and another when it comes to consensual sex. I understand the legalities of it in the UK, but I think a case of assault should really require a malicious intent to harm someone.
I can see what you're saying about emotional damage and humiliation, but that's why people should communicate properly and be sure it's what they both want to do. The way I see it if you're too weak to say no to something you don't want, you deserve emotional damage and humiliation.
On the subject of the women/men bit, I asked that question because, as I said, it was the girl that I was with at the time that liked to cut me. I never cut her. It seems to me that you don't consider that as bad as if it was the other way around. It's really no different though. She cut me just the same as I would cut her, and she had to get me to agree to, which could be construed to she had to manipulate me into it.
I can understand what you're saying about women usually being the ones that are sexually assaulted, but this is completely different than sexual abuse and its just as easy for a woman to bring the pain as it is for a man.
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Originally Posted by Xerxys
OK, OK, but go die in another thread ... I would rather it not disrupt my train of thoughts!!
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We don't need another thread to discuss what we're discussing here. The OP asked for opinions on blood play. That's exactly what we're discussing.