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Old 02-04-2009, 01:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
geez, dk. sounds like you're defending the cops actions regarding the camera. or maybe you misread the statement i made. who knows?

as for cops acting imperious when questioned---this is news how exactly? seriously, dk. this happens all the time. i'm about the last person to defend it---it's obviously an ugly side of wearing a uniform, this impression that comes along with it that your Authority exempts you from questions---but this sort of thing happens ALL THE TIME. i have a dozen stories i can think of about this kind of nonsense off the top of my head.
why do we allow it to happen then? why don't more of us make a change?

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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
but if that's true, that what's at issue here is an entirely routine abuse of power, then it cannot be the case that you abstracted this story from any number of alternative possible stories with the same plot line for that reason--so this is about the gun.
It started with the gun, however, what ripped me more about this was AFTER he was uncuffed and allowed to sit down so they could come back and ask questions later, he was no longer any kind of 'suspect' as much as he would be a witness. So with that change in who he was to them, why would the police get all bent out of shape about being recorded, so much to the extent that they illegally demanded the recorder, then threatened to tase him for not surrendering it to them?

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i don't think it is about the gun. i think it's about the above--and as annoying as it is, it also seems to be the sort of thing folk are willing to put up with, conditioned as they are by endless television shows about heroic police who never stamp on basic rights, who never act like assholes etc etc etc.
and as long as we let this condition continue???? what do we do, as a society, to prevent these things from becoming, as you say, routine?
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