Thread: gaza redux
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
Slims
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Israel to Hamas: Stop shooting rockets at us.

Hamas to Israel: No

Israel to Hamas: Check out our air force.



I don't see the problem. Israel has repeatedly tried to disengage from Gaza, even allowing Palestinian Governance, but the Palestineans keep trying to kill israelis.

Hamas supported those attacks and refused to police them internally, which makes them a sponsor of terrorism.

Israel attacked valid military targets, to include a graduation of Hamas fighters (Hamas didn't think Israel had the balls to attack during a workday with everybody out and about).

And Roachboy, if Israel was laying siege to Gaza, everybody in Gaza would be dead by now. Every time the Israelis open up Gaza and loosen restrictions, the Palestinians use the opportunity to kill Israelis'.
-----Added 27/12/2008 at 06 : 55 : 31-----
Oh, and in case anybody really thinks that the Palestinians and Hamas just want to be left alone and that Israel is the agressor, check out these quotes from the Hamas Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

Personally, I think Israel has been fairly restrained by not simply emptying the area of every single non-israeli and claiming the land as part of Israel, permanently.
-----Added 27/12/2008 at 07 : 02 : 29-----
Oops, forgot this, which is included in the charter as a quote from (I believe) the Koran:

The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).






So the Hamas Charter makes it pretty clear that they won't be content until they kill all the Jews. Can you show me anything similar on the Israeli side? Does the Israeli constitution have similar language? NO? Then maybe they really are being attacked by the people who swore to kill them.
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