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Old 11-14-2008, 01:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Greg700 View Post
Complete and total BS.

...lots of words

It is a big fat scam.
100% accurate. i totally agree - itīs a simple case of more energy in then energy out, ie pointless.

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Electrode technology is more than just "some of the electrickery goes into the wires and frightens the atomies apart" or whatever.

Electrode efficiency is related to the total surface area available, the porosity of the electrodes, the conductivity of the wires, the robustness of the surface and many other factors.

Have you noticed that every year retail batteries get longer lives, and rechargeables carry more current? Ever wondered why "having a flat battery" hardly ever happens to a car driver these days?

Improvements in electrode technology.
i agree with greg on tis one. electrode technology is seriuosly lagging and holding back a lot of pregress imho. look at batteries through the last 100 years and look at technology on the whole. the advances in battery technology (at least in the mainstream - i have no evidence of non-mainstream super-advances but just putting this little disclaimer in) have been almost negligible in the last 50 odd years. evedence? just look at the size of batteries, they havenīt changed at all.

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He said "relatively" unchanged. Electrode technology is the same as it was 300 years ago. It's just more efficient. Just as the combustion engine remains relatively unchanged - it mixes fuel and air together to make an explosion that drives a piston within a linear shaft. - since the Model T days. The technology is the same, but today's engines have learned to maximize, relative to the early 1900's, the efficiency of that technology. The change in technology would be the Wankel rotary engine, which as near as I can tell, works on witchcraft. (I keed. )


A radical change in electrode technology would be to change the basic way in which that technology works - - i.e. something other than a positive / negative electrode doing the work.
again, agreed - nothing much has really changed. i briefly studied the wankel rotary engine while doing thermodynamics and i concur - it runs on witchcraft

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What I want is a car like the little fuel cell car I can build with a kid's science kit: solar energy splits water, it recombines to fuel the car, solar energy splits the resulting water, it recombines to fuel the car, and so on.

Unfortunately, with the way we drive a battery would have to be involved in there somewhere.. but I'm highly optimistic that renewable resources will be used more often in the future.
itīs not unfortunate that a battery is involved, itīs just that the method of storing energy is so ridiculously cumbersome. once we have this figured out alternative energy sources powering cars will become commonplace i suspect.

edit: i refer everyone to the orange text in my signature. i never suspected it would be relevant
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