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Old 11-04-2008, 09:36 AM   #46 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
The current administration's view is that if you're not fur us you're a-ggin us.
In context, this was war-time rhetoric. The issue of global terrorism impacts the world. People need to make a choice to fight for freedom and peace or fight against it. I understand how others see a middle ground, but I don't and think they are wrong.

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Most reasonable people find that overly bellicose.
It is bellicose. During war that is how leaders speak. I think the disconnect is with some not believing we are at war. How would you communicate to those who want us dead?

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Why, for instance, when presented with the view of the WHOLE REST OF THE WORLD, do you default to a concern about the nations that are a-ggin us?
Because I think those "a-ggin us" are more motivated than those that are with us.

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How about all our allies, who prefer Obama as well?
I am a cynic. People do what is in their best interest, not yours. I am always going to suspect those offering free advice intended for my good.

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How about those nations we have normalized relations with but aren't strictly fur or a-ggin us? How about the COMMUNITY that the world is, of which we're an important member, but ONLY a member?
I am not saying that people in other nations can't voice their opinion, I am just saying their opinion has very little value to me. I understand that it is more important to others, and I wanted to get a better understanding of why it is important to them.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
ace....I wasnt the one who posted this "objective" critique of Obama supporters:


No...I'm not satisfied with being "average"...and I dont know Obama supporters who are.
If you are saying you don't understand my comment that is one thing, but you never asked for clarification.

The concept behind "spreading wealth", and the concept of many Democratic economic policy positions is based on shrinking the spread between those that have a lot of wealth and those who do not. The war on poverty started in the 60's was intended to move as many people to the middle class as possible. The impact of these policies is to make the normal distribution curve taller in the middle - average. I don't understand how you dispute that intent.
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