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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Sorry, I did not support the bail out plan. I think we should let some of the failing institutions fail. Then on the other hand I think the government is actually investing in assets that have value and assets that can actually generate a positive return on investment. This is different than "spreading the wealth around".
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Yes. "Spreading the wealth around" removes the 99% of the money in the hands of 1% of the population concentration that, historically, has always led to the downfall of civilizations. Considering that a great deal of that wealth was sucked out of the rest of the country through tax loopholes and shady business practices, I have no problem with it.
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I am guessing your beliefs are different than mine but your lifestyle and amount of "pollutants" you create are about the same as me.
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Without knowing how many pollutants you create, I can't know. I will say that none of my cars gets less than 29mpg, and my home's electricity is supplemented with solar. I'd have wind, too, but the dumbshit neighbors won't sign off on it because they think a wind turbine will give them cancer. Literally.
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I expect adults to understand the consequences of their actions. What are the costs of Obama's environmental plans? You don't know do you? Do you think Obama knows? Do you think he will tell us?
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The economic costs are that factories and power plants and other CO2 emitters will have to reduce their emissions (by 2050, I might add - it's not like they'll be stymied by February). This means they'll have to find new and, yes, probably expensive (at first) solutions to keep doing what they want to do, without destroying the environment.
The same hysterical "oh my god it'll ruin EVERYTHING" crap happened when the government mandated a switch from tetra ethyl lead-infused gasoline and.. . hey, look, we're still here, and not spewing millions of tons of neurotoxins into the air from our tailpipes every year.
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Our environment is not "fucked up". Our environment is cleaner today than it was 40 years ago. How do you define "fucked up"?
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Global. Warming.
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Irreversible? I wonder if the scientist you did that study put into perspective the entire history of this planet? We are nowhere near the climate extremes this planet has existed through.
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And during those climate extremes, humans weren't around. And if they had been, they'd have been killed off. I have no fear or doubt that the earth can survive without us, but the reverse is not true.