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Old 10-19-2008, 04:43 PM   #62 (permalink)
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1. By spread I mean the spread of the shot on impact with the target, may be using spray would have been clearer? Either way even at a distance of 5-10 feet your impact area will be larger then that of any pistol or rifle other then a deagle or .50 cal.
Psst... from one gun nut to another: Any time you mention an IMI / MRI Desert Eagle... especially with the my-firearms-experience-comes-from-video-games "deagle" vernacular... you lose all your cool points. Really, it makes me ashamed to own one.

Spray / spread is the same as far as I'm concerned for this scenario (home defense). Spread / spray / impact area is not a consideration for one defending their residence. If anything, it is a liability. I outlined the tactical usefulness of the shotgun / buckshot combination in my previous post. The advantage of the shotgun / buckshot combination is: short range, limited penetration, and devastating impact due to larger combined projectile weight and surface area. The bonus of a shotgun shell isn't the ability to have lousy aim and still cause a hit... it is the ability to cause more damage with one hit than with a single hit from another type of ammunition.

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The added force you’ll get from hitting some one with a shotgun vice a pistol (again other then larger rounds) will be sufficient enough to stop your target without punching through a wall. The spread or spray effect you’d get from a mounted machine gun is vastly different and for vastly different reasons… I’ll not post them here because it is completely beyond Deaconess’s question and the original reason for the post. So like I said while a shotgun will alleviate the need for marksman accuracy (because hitting a target with a projectile that measures roughly the size of a 1’ x 1’ square then the far smaller size you’d get from most anything else) it still requires some accuracy.
I wasn't arguing that shotgun pellets spread out over distance. Turns out that's why we nicknamed them "scatterguns." For reasoning as to your 1'x1' issue, consult my above argument.

Common sense: If you can't hit a man-sized torso at 21 feet with ANY weapon, you shouldn't own a firearm. Center mass - GO.

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2. Why would they hear a second shot….only if he completely misses because as Draconis said he is not an avid shooter.
See, OP dude shouldn't purchase a firearm he isn't willing to train with in order to obtain a reasonable degree of confidence (aka: accuracy). Responsible ownership steps in here. I'd recommend a baseball bat and a good flashlight over a shotgun to someone who isn't responsible enough to obtain that degree of competence with a deadly weapon they intend on using in their own home.

Safety first.

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The title of this thread annoys me and should be corrected by someone who gives a damn.

There is a distinct difference between safety and defense, especially where firearms are concerned.
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