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Originally posted by 4thTimeLucky
In the UK you don't need to drive with a licence, you just need to produce it at a police station within 7 working days of it being requested. How does it work in the US?
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we must carry our driver's license with us at all times that we are driving a vehicle. Failure to do so in itself is worthy of a ticket, so if I get pulled over for speeding and don't have my driver's license, I get 2 tickets - 1 for speeding and another for no license. On my court date I can then bring my valid license from the time of the ticket and show it to the judge at which point the ticket for no license would be thrown out.
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As article said, in 14 states you don't need a photo on the licence.
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I too think that that's a problem that should be fixed in those states, not the other way around.
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What is the national security threat posed by not allowing her to use a different form of ID? To me this is an issue of freedom and religious tolerance, not natuonal security. Organised terrorists would (a) just follow the rules, blend in and not draw attention to themselves as she has, and (b) be well organised and funded enough to buy false driving licences if they needed them.
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This is very true. The issue isn't her though. It's a matter of if she can do it, then anyone will be able to do it in the future. Meaning that anyone who wished to hide their face would be able to cite that case as an example that they should be allowed to. I'm not sure whether I agree with the reasoning entirely or not, but that's what I take it to be.
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And as for 'driving is a privilege'. What makes you think that in a country that is founded on extensive individual rights, the freedom of the individual and the limiting of the state. Are you saying that she has a right to buy a gun and a right to buy a house and a right to buy pretty much damn well anything. But not a car? That is a privilege that the government must give you? My view is that we have the right to buy a car but we must prove that we can drive it safely. Once we have done that then we free to drive. If the government wants to keep tabs on us with a driving licence then okay, but it is up to them to make sure that they fit their system around my religious and human rights.
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One cannot buy a gun without adhering to certain requirements for it, just like one can't drive a car without doing so. One of those requirements is a valid driver's license with (in most states) a photo ID. Driving isn't a necessity to life therefore we have no responsibility to ensure that all people can do it. If she doesn't want to get a valid driver's license, that's fine - she just can't drive herself anywhere. There's public transportation, walking, cabs, etc.
And like others have mentioned, they offered her a way to get the picture taken that doesn't go against her religion at all. Were she to be pulled over, she could simply then explain to the officer - if it's male - that due to her religious beliefs she can only show her license to a female officer. They can call one over - just as they do when they have to frisk female's - and all would be well. That looks like extra effort to me.