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Originally Posted by guccilvr
Why would anyone disagree about failure in Iraq?? There is no disagreement there.. the disagreement lies in the fact that one party wants to let the Iraqi government take control and the other wants to continue a pointless war.
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Isn't there a difference between wanting to finish a war with victory compared to "continuing a pointless war?"
Obama/Biden seem to think you can dictate the terms of a war in a way that the enemy won't respond. If the enemy is fighting in Iraq what is the point of being in Afganistan. The McCain approach is to use a surge strategy to control territory and hold it. We take away Iraq from the enemy, control it, stabilize it, and eliminate the need to go back. What is the Obama approach? Can you articulate it?
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To say that Palin had any correct stance on foreign policy is bullshit and it's simply a matter of sticking with party lines at that point. She never once had any factual basis or theory on how to resolve the situation in Iraq other than "John McCain is a war hero blah blah blah"
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I fault the debate format. Give people more than 2 minutes to address an issue if we want more details.
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Biden is not exactly known for laying down to anyone in the senate. He will stand up to anyone regardless of party affiliation. However, we have McCain who only stands up to his party on issues that frankly, nobody cares about. When it comes to the war and the economy.. he always votes with his party and it's proven to be a stupid stance in all areas.
How the hell can anyone say she clearly put her points on the table?? She kept going back to energy and the fact she was a Governor of an energy state. Big fucking deal. Obama's plan is clearly a better plan, regardless of spending in that area.
She tried to put taxes on the table and did a piss poor job of outlining anything. She just kept saying that Obama has an $800 million spending package he wants to employ... how is that involved in taxes? Ok.. I get it, higher spending = higher taxes right? WRONG. Put energy programs and education programs out there and..oh my god! there are new jobs!
what a load of shit.
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It seems that you simply disagree with her points, not that she did not make them. It is funny how you can give a sumation of her points, can you do the same for Biden?