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Old 09-17-2008, 07:18 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Charlatan View Post
That's funny, I don't see the Democrat's message as being one of Doom and Gloom but rather one of hope and trust in America's ability to change the things that need changing.

I guess we are listening to different messages.
For example, I think our economy is in fact fundamentally strong. We are in a crisis, but I think it will pass. I look at the 94% of Americans working. I look at the 98% of the home not in default. I look at GDP continuing to grow. I look at exports increasing. I look at the fact it still takes 1/2 hour wait at local restaurants for dinner on the weekend. I look at people buying big screen TV's, cell phones and $500 purses. I look at electricity flowing to my home, my garbage getting picked up, roads being built and repaired. Then I hear Obama say the economy is broken. It is not.


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I agree that the competency thing is a distraction. That said, I find it interesting that your vote for McCain is tipped in his favour by the choice of Palin as his running mate. Do you really feel that the VP has that much of an effect on the core business of the oval office?
For example, McCain, in my view rightfully says the fundamentals of the economy are strong, then rather than defending his statement he backs off. I don't think Palin would. Palin gives me hope for the future. I want her to succeed. I want more people with her "fight" in Washington. I don't think she is perfect and she has weaknesses, but who doesn't?
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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
My god! Perspectives are SUCH interesting things!

I can't FATHOM how you could find the GOP message positive and optimistic. It sounds cynical and paranoid to me. And I can't imagine how you can hear "hope" as doom and gloom. The cognitive dissonance for me in reading this paragraph is nothing short of stunning.

I'll also note that, in the question of "is the country on the right track?" you're in a marked minority. You're entitled to that opinion, of course. But you're nuts.

Direction of Country

Here are the most recent numbers (from a GfK Roper poll Sept. 5-10):
For example - I think our initial invasion and strategy in Iraq was correct, our enemy adapted and for a period got the upper hand. Then we adapted and now have the upper hand. I think there are ebbs and flows to war. Regardless of your position on us going to war, once we were at war I think the focus needs to be on winning it. Democrats seem to have difficulty with the fact that we at one point had the upper hand and now have the upper hand. I think we can accomplish our goals with Iraq. Democrats don't think it is possible. I think the war is currently on the right track, Democrats don't.
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