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Cynthetiq · 09-05-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Willravel

The problem with this specific situation (the one of this thread), though, is that I've personally been harmed by it. Sure, some politicians think they can fool people into thinking that it's impossible for humans to effect our climate, but there is no doubt that there is a direct, causal link between air pollution and asthma. I have no family history of asthma going back 3 generations, but Ch'i and I were both raised in San Jose, which had bad pollution in the 80s into the 90s, and we both have serious asthma. As a matter of fact, asthma rates here, especially for those born and raised in the 80s into the 90s, are unusually high. You can find similar situations in other higher pollution areas (especially LA). There's other, extensive documentation that I've read (but won't reference in a pub discussion).

If I say, "Stop polluting", I'm not just saying don't ruin our climate, I'm saying that I don't want my posterity having the asthma that I have, which isn't some abstract damage.

Again, egotistical. You want it for YOUR posterity. I don't plan on having kids, so my opinion doesn't count? I have asthma too, I don't want to inflict it upon anyone. It doesn't mean that I don't want to have the CHOICE to sit in a smokey jazz or blues bar and listen to some deep music with a drink in one hand and a cigarette in another.

My wife? She doesn't like to sit in smokey bars. That's not her thing. When I used to come home smelling like an ashtray even after I quit smoking, I'd have to shower before going to bed at 5AM. It was my choice and my consequences I had to deal with.

So far, egotistical people have removed CHOICES.

I don't like the color temperature of CFL bulbs. I prefer incandescent. The great state of California has removed that CHOICE from me.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux

I didnt have any problem with forcing industries from dumping their toxic sludge into the nearest lake...or agri-business disposing of their feed lot runoff into the nearest river or stream...they bitched and moaned..and then complied and their bottom line did not suffer measurably.

And now I dont have any problem with forcing utlities or any heavy industry from continuing to spew tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

It wont save the planet...it will make it more breathable for many.

I don't have a problem with industry. I've stated it before, I'm fine with measurable caps and hardlined penalties. I don't believe in carbon credits, buying/selling/trading.

If you want conservation, then everyone conserves across the board. Not use someone else's unused spots.