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pan6467 · 07-24-2008, 10:02 PM

Look, the truth is that shareholders need to put pressure on the executives to cut their multimillion dollar salaries, expense accounts and other perk and PAY the workers more for those companies still having US workers.

In cutting these people's pay and perks and make them actually accountable and base their salaries on performance, you might see increases in business. Then you pay the worker more and the worker has more incentive to work harder and be company loyal. The worker works harder, has more disposable income and isn't worried so much about living paycheck to paycheck, they have less stress, can buy more and the economy moves forward at a galloping pace.

The added benefit is tax revenue increases without raising taxes.

Look at it like this....... the CEO of company X makes 10 million a year. Company X employs 1,000 workers. Now, that CEO pays let's say 2.5 mill in taxes because he has a good accountant. Now with the rest he's taking tips, buying his wife jewelry, a yacht, some foreign cars, invest in "safe global companies" and so on, nothing that really helps the local economy.

But, you cut his wages in 1/2, give that money to the employees as raises.... they go out and buy furniture, American made cars, appliances, maybe invest in companies stocks, buy real estate, new houses get built, invest in community businesses and support the community. Infrastructure gets rebuilt, the inner cities and downtowns can begin to get cleaned up, meaning more jobs, meaning more tax revenue and business is brought into the community and so on.

The workers have more money to send their kids to college, less tax money to support the colleges, fewer loans needed. The colleges, if they receive ANY governmental funding in any way, should be legally obliged to freeze tuitions and can only raise it once every 10 years.

The community begins to thrive, more people support Company X. Sales for Company X start to increase, the CEO begins to make his incentives, the employees make their incentives. There is less turnover, which means less training and fewer man hours lost, which means better quality products because of stability.

That is how capitalism and the market NEEDS to work. That is how a country and it's citizens maintain an economic harmony.

If we cannot do that, if we choose not to DEMAND that this happen, if we continue to let the rich get richer on the backs of the working class we will continue to fall downward into oblivion. We no longer have the option of waiting for all this to work itself out.... WE MUST DEMAND THAT THIS IS DONE NOW.

We also need to make sure companies get penalized for outsourcing jobs and exploiting workers in other countries. If GE, FORD, Microsoft, Nike, etc.... choose to send jobs overseas, then they must pay those workers the same wages as they do here AND be held responsible for the lost tax revenue lost by the workers they took jobs away from.

Neither party nor MAJOR presidential candidate will ever say this or propose any idea like this. Why?????

Because both parties are wanting those CEOs money and donations and support. NEITHER PARTY, NEITHER CANDIDATE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PROBLEMS.... ALL THEY WANT IS THE POWER TO PUSH THEIR AGENDAS: GUN CONTROL, PRO-LIFE/ABORTION, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT TAKES MORE RIGHTS AWAY FROM YOU AND GIVES THEM MORE FUCKING POWER.

How many on this board truly think cigarettes, trans fat, Howard Stern, Janet Jackson's tit, abortion, gun control, speed limits, and so on need to be given to FEDERAL POWERS?????? Hopefully, not many of you.

I would much rather live in a world where I am paid a respectable wage and have some disposable income, where the economic classes are closer and in a world where I CAN MAKE THE CHOICE OF LISTENING TO WHOM I WANT, WATCHING WHAT I WANT, OWNING OR NOT OWNING A GUN, LETTING WOMEN DECIDE THAT CHOICE {PROVIDED THE FATHER DOESN'T WANT THE CHILD}, HAVING THE LOCAL CITY, COUNTY, STATE SET THE SPEED LIMITS, HAVING BUSINESSES DECIDE BY THE MARKETPLACE WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE SMOKERS THERE, AND SO ON...... THEN TO WATCH MY COUNTRYMEN LIVE IN POVERTY, FORECLOSURES, AND DICTATED TO.

GIVE ME FUCKING LIBERTY, EQUALITY AND FREEDOM AND WE ALL WILL HAVE A BETTER, HAPPIER, MORE PROSPEROUS, BRIGHTLY FUTURED COUNTRY IN WHICH TO LIVE..... TAKE MY LIBERTIES, MY EQUALITIES AND MY CHOICES AWAY AND WE ALL WILL DIE IN BONDAGE AND INDEBTEDNESS TO GREEDY, POWER HUNGRY BASTARDS THAT NEVER GAVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF US BUT FILLED US WITH GRIEF, DEPRESSION, HATRED AND ANGER.

IT IS YOUR CHOICE..... IT IS YOUR NEIGHBORS CHOICE..... SPEAK OUT NOW, DEMAND CHANGE NOW OR DIE LIKE COWARDS IN DEPRESSION, ANGER, HATE AND HAVE THE FUTURE GENERATIONS LIVING IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WE EVER IMAGINED AND CURSING US FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING WHEN WE STILL HAD THE CHANCE TO SAVE THEM.

07-24-2008, 10:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Look, the truth is that shareholders need to put pressure on the executives to cut their multimillion dollar salaries, expense accounts and other perk and PAY the workers more for those companies still having US workers. In cutting these people's pay and perks and make them actually accountable and base their salaries on performance, you might see increases in business. Then you pay the worker more and the worker has more incentive to work harder and be company loyal. The worker works harder, has more disposable income and isn't worried so much about living paycheck to paycheck, they have less stress, can buy more and the economy moves forward at a galloping pace. The added benefit is tax revenue increases without raising taxes. Look at it like this....... the CEO of company X makes 10 million a year. Company X employs 1,000 workers. Now, that CEO pays let's say 2.5 mill in taxes because he has a good accountant. Now with the rest he's taking tips, buying his wife jewelry, a yacht, some foreign cars, invest in "safe global companies" and so on, nothing that really helps the local economy. But, you cut his wages in 1/2, give that money to the employees as raises.... they go out and buy furniture, American made cars, appliances, maybe invest in companies stocks, buy real estate, new houses get built, invest in community businesses and support the community. Infrastructure gets rebuilt, the inner cities and downtowns can begin to get cleaned up, meaning more jobs, meaning more tax revenue and business is brought into the community and so on. The workers have more money to send their kids to college, less tax money to support the colleges, fewer loans needed. The colleges, if they receive ANY governmental funding in any way, should be legally obliged to freeze tuitions and can only raise it once every 10 years. The community begins to thrive, more people support Company X. Sales for Company X start to increase, the CEO begins to make his incentives, the employees make their incentives. There is less turnover, which means less training and fewer man hours lost, which means better quality products because of stability. That is how capitalism and the market NEEDS to work. That is how a country and it's citizens maintain an economic harmony. If we cannot do that, if we choose not to DEMAND that this happen, if we continue to let the rich get richer on the backs of the working class we will continue to fall downward into oblivion. We no longer have the option of waiting for all this to work itself out.... WE MUST DEMAND THAT THIS IS DONE NOW. We also need to make sure companies get penalized for outsourcing jobs and exploiting workers in other countries. If GE, FORD, Microsoft, Nike, etc.... choose to send jobs overseas, then they must pay those workers the same wages as they do here AND be held responsible for the lost tax revenue lost by the workers they took jobs away from. Neither party nor MAJOR presidential candidate will ever say this or propose any idea like this. Why????? Because both parties are wanting those CEOs money and donations and support. NEITHER PARTY, NEITHER CANDIDATE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PROBLEMS.... ALL THEY WANT IS THE POWER TO PUSH THEIR AGENDAS: GUN CONTROL, PRO-LIFE/ABORTION, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT TAKES MORE RIGHTS AWAY FROM YOU AND GIVES THEM MORE FUCKING POWER. How many on this board truly think cigarettes, trans fat, Howard Stern, Janet Jackson's tit, abortion, gun control, speed limits, and so on need to be given to FEDERAL POWERS?????? Hopefully, not many of you. I would much rather live in a world where I am paid a respectable wage and have some disposable income, where the economic classes are closer and in a world where I CAN MAKE THE CHOICE OF LISTENING TO WHOM I WANT, WATCHING WHAT I WANT, OWNING OR NOT OWNING A GUN, LETTING WOMEN DECIDE THAT CHOICE {PROVIDED THE FATHER DOESN'T WANT THE CHILD}, HAVING THE LOCAL CITY, COUNTY, STATE SET THE SPEED LIMITS, HAVING BUSINESSES DECIDE BY THE MARKETPLACE WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE SMOKERS THERE, AND SO ON...... THEN TO WATCH MY COUNTRYMEN LIVE IN POVERTY, FORECLOSURES, AND DICTATED TO. GIVE ME FUCKING LIBERTY, EQUALITY AND FREEDOM AND WE ALL WILL HAVE A BETTER, HAPPIER, MORE PROSPEROUS, BRIGHTLY FUTURED COUNTRY IN WHICH TO LIVE..... TAKE MY LIBERTIES, MY EQUALITIES AND MY CHOICES AWAY AND WE ALL WILL DIE IN BONDAGE AND INDEBTEDNESS TO GREEDY, POWER HUNGRY BASTARDS THAT NEVER GAVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF US BUT FILLED US WITH GRIEF, DEPRESSION, HATRED AND ANGER. IT IS YOUR CHOICE..... IT IS YOUR NEIGHBORS CHOICE..... SPEAK OUT NOW, DEMAND CHANGE NOW OR DIE LIKE COWARDS IN DEPRESSION, ANGER, HATE AND HAVE THE FUTURE GENERATIONS LIVING IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WE EVER IMAGINED AND CURSING US FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING WHEN WE STILL HAD THE CHANCE TO SAVE THEM. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"