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Jinn · 07-15-2008, 10:33 AM

You're trying to argue that somehow his lineage determines whether he is black or white.

In doing so, you're confusing the relatively obvious distinction between SKIN COLOR and ETHNICITY. By ethnicity, he's not an "African American." By skin color, he is most certainly black.

Someone can be African American without being black, and black without being African American.

You're just being pedantic if you really want to argue this. In a random geographically distributed survey of 10,000 Americans, I'd wager more than 9,000 people would consider Barack Obama "black." You can go against the grain all you want, but words are socially constructed and you aren't part of the majority of society that constructed these meanings.

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Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	You're trying to argue that somehow his lineage determines whether he is black or white. In doing so, you're confusing the relatively obvious distinction between SKIN COLOR and ETHNICITY. By ethnicity, he's not an "African American." By skin color, he is most certainly black. Someone can be African American without being black, and black without being African American. You're just being pedantic if you really want to argue this. In a random geographically distributed survey of 10,000 Americans, I'd wager more than 9,000 people would consider Barack Obama "black." You can go against the grain all you want, but words are socially constructed and you aren't part of the majority of society that constructed these meanings. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel Last edited by Jinn; 07-15-2008 at 10:37 AM..