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Old 06-30-2008, 11:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
high_jinx
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#1 I disagree Iraq is/was a failure. While many Americans, and certainly not the media will say Iraq was a success, if you look at it from the Iraqi standpoint, they have much more freedoms and opportunity then they've ever had. Is it still a mess there? Yes, but it's constantly getting better. I think Iraq will be Bush's main legacy and that's where I think the way he is viewed will change.
i'm happy for iraq. but none of this makes for any success that bush has had as america's president. the fact that oil is involved and the agenda is more self serving, and that there are plenty of other places in the world where we could have played World Police and still other places where we turn a blind eye to injustice and human rights violations, like china, makes it a questionable success at best.

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#2 Well it's not the 'so call War on Terror' it *is* the War on Terror. I think this was a great success on Bush's behalf. He pushes a loosely organize Al Qaeda into disarray. They don't have the ability to mount large attacks (due to their inability to fund and train on a large scale) as see on 9/11.
i think it's ridiculous to take credit for something *not* happening, especially when there's so many questions on how we somehow let 9/11 happen to begin with. i would like someone to list any kind of domestic successes garnered over the last 8 years, because i'm not seeing any.

the worst failure to me was when hurricane Katrina happened and we had all our flood gear and high water disaster machines in iraq, and it took weeks to get them back to deal with the mess back here. yet another example of us trying to impose our will and rules on the rest of the world while we have enough problems to deal with internally first. we'll only spread ourselves to thin and our integrity will erode from the middle outward this way.
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