ace.....what is deemed defensible is a matter of political perspective.
You think drilling in ANWR is defensible...I dont
You think permanent tax cuts for the top 2% of wage earners is defensible...I dont.
You think invading Iraq was defensible...I dont
I could probably name numerous other issues
And we can each offer our sources to support our position..but I am not going to play that game with you here...so there is no point.
As to Obama, neither one of us was privy to his decision making process. It could be he voted for the farm bill for the same reasons I support it..because it was the only way to get needed funding for critical programs for the poor and working class... or it could be because he is like others in Washington who cave to the well-financed lobbyists.
Finally, ace....dont kid yourself. I have commented on your arrogance and your extreme "pit bull" responses on numerous occasions...most recently when you "relapsed" (your own assessment, if I recall) and completely lost control, challenging me and Tully (if I recall) to name any three presidents so that you could PROVE they were as guilty of violating the Constitution and the oath of office as Bush. I think we both suggested you chill out.
But I am pleased, for your sake, that you are still working on it!