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Originally Posted by filtherton
This whole tangent is immaterial.
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You started it! Nyah.
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I never said they did. I just said that the antiban crowd tends to be a bit dramatic.
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Heh. Okay, sure. The proban crowd tends to be a bit irritating, though!
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Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. And I never said antiban types must use it, I said many of them do use it. You should reread the things I've said. I think you're arguing with what you think I'm saying, and not necessarily with what I'm saying.
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If your aim is simply to make a bunch of generalized, one-sided statements implicitly demeaning the anti-ban side, statements juuust general enough to be true without being useful, statements that just. as. easily. apply to your side, well, you should've said so. It
looked like you were commenting on the issue, rather than the unobjectively observed appearances of the issue.
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If you think injustice is requiring private business owners to submit to the public health requirements of local governments, local governments who are acting on the behalf of the majority of their citizens to limit the use of carcinogens indoors, then you are completely diluting the word justice.
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Nope. I'm not. It's apt.
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I won't cop to the same position, though I see how you would think that our positions were the same. James Dobson wants to regulate healthy expressions of sexuality. I am indifferent to the complaints of people concerning the possibly overreaching regulation of known carcinogens. If you don't see a difference, then I won't press the matter.
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I see plenty of differences, none of which defeat my point on their similarity: people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally.
And that's in
addition to your defense of people who are obnoxious (you won't smoke on your property while I'M here!) and destructive (I don't care if your sales tank!). We're not so different, you and I.
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I'm sure you do sleep very well. Have you overturned any bans yet?
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Hell no, I'm too busy sleeping.