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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
so what you're trying to say is that every constitutional convention, every debate from each state, every document from every founder and framer, and the federalist and anti-federalist papers all declared that all men have the right to keep and bear arms, then when james madison wrote the bill of rights, he snuck in a boondoggle and lied to an entire nation about the 2nd amendment?
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What I'm saying is that the words which were crafted by some of our nation's great leaders, passed by both the House and Senate, and then passed the president's desk are perfectly clear. Are you claiming that somehow they—some of our nation's great leaders, members of both the House and Senate—were all wrong and that
some federalists' and anti-federalists' writings, which have not been verified to have even been authored by said federalists and anti-federalists, override the actual wording of the document? That's just silly.
Your impression of the Second would look like this:
"The right for the people to bear arms, being necessary for a free state, shall not be infringed."
That's not how it reads. Members of a well organized militia are guaranteed a right to bear arms under the Second Amendment.