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Originally Posted by Derwood
i'm curious how many times you gun owners have had to use your weapon. i'm guessing it's the same number of times as me (and I don't own one)
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If I keep losing sleep because of the noise, I'm going to pop the woodpecker that's been breaking into my house right above my window and call it self-defense.
But seriously, I've been in four situations where I was only a few minutes from being in businesses when they were robbed by an armed attacker. Having spoken to the employees after the fact, I am confident that the only safe course of action for all involved had I been there would have been for me to comply with the robbers' demands to stand back, memorize whatever I could about them, and call the police with a description as soon as they left.
Considering that at least one was by a gang member, and gang-related violence has been on the rise in the area (53 shootings and stabbings last year,) I find it comforting to know that that if a situation turns bad, I have a way to fight back, because at this rate, I am more likely than ever before to find myself in a situation in which I will be in the same room as an armed criminal. Hopefully if it happens, it will be a textbook situation with everyone staying calm, the cashiers or tellers handing over the money, and the local PD arresting the morons ten minutes later.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Or you could be under the oppressive British or Japanese regimes. I think you need a bit more of this "perspective" you speak of. Crime is relatively low in the UK and quite low in Japan, and they are most certainly not police states. They enjoy similar freedoms to people in the US (without things like domestic spying and being held without trial, like we have here in the US).
The UK and Japan prove conclusively that gun bans are not synonymous with oppressive governments.
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The difference between domestic spying in the US and the UK is that the UK has the police do it. I wouldn't say they have all the freedoms that we do, for example over there it's a crime to own a TV without a license.