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Old 03-20-2008, 06:13 AM   #260 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Much more respectful than your last response to me and I deeply appreciate this post. Whether you believe me or not.
I believe you and you're welcome. I'm deliberately throwing cold water on my urge to turn this conversation into a knife fight. Let's keep doing that, both of us, okay?

My question is: where did you get the assertion that Wright was on Obama's political payroll? Because everything I'm seeing indicates the contrary--that Obama saw him at church, used him as a spiritual counselor, and obviously had a close relationship with him in that respect, but that he was never any formal member of the campaign and never was a political advisor. Obama explicitly said as much in the Tuesday speech--although lingering credibility issues may impede one's trust in that statement, of course.

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
I find it quite surreal that someone like Mike Huckabee can not only understand what's going on here, but is willing to speak out about it, yet there seem to be a number of people who have far less connection to the subject that are so outraged.
Actually, I think if it was going to be ANYBODY from the Right, it'd be Huckabee. He no longer has a horse in the race, so he can say anything he wants to. Plus, he comes from a religious background, and I believe he's a good man with a good head on his shoulders (his wacky-ass tax plan notwithstanding). I disagree with his policy almost 100%, yet I find him very likable as a person. I was proud of him, to hear him say what he said about all this.

Your point about the bizarre outrage, though, is well taken.

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Originally Posted by powerclown
Obama gave a decent enough speech on race the other day, but it's a hell of a time to even be discussing such a controversial subject just months before the election. It's enough he has to say all the right things about domestic and foreign policy, but to have to tackle the ginormous subject of race might be problematic. He could spend 2 terms in office as President addressing racial issues, and still get nowhere. Perhaps if he ends up losing the election, he could devote more of his time addressing racial issues and injustices as he sees them. It seems like a lot to ask of a candidate to tackle the subject of race relations *and* run a conventional campaign at the same time.
Yeah, but given who he is, he almost can't NOT address race. And, you know, he might spend two terms in office addressing racial issues and get somewhere. Given the level he was talking at Tuesday morning, I think that's entirely possible.

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