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Originally Posted by ottopilot
The same can be said about the likes of George Soros and moveon.org.
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Can you understand that I don't have the vaguest inkling of what you are comparing, and how I can confidently post that you don't understand, AT ALL, waht you are saying in your comparison of Salem Communications and moveon.org?
George Soros contributed money to a GRASSROOTS organization, moveon.org, that RUNS on small contributions from huge numbers of individual donors, i.e., a GRASSROOTS organization.
www.towhhall.com and the Salem Radio Network are an integrated media property consisting of an army of conservative evangelical republican themed talk radio hosts, and internet and print columnists. This media property is a publicly traded corporation founded, managed and controlled by two current and or former officers and members of the super secret, evangelical conservative christian republican Council for National Policy, CNP, and organzation founded in 1981 by Rev. Tim LaHaye and Paul Weyrich. CNP meetings and membership roster are kept secret and the press is barred, to the extent that it is possible, from covering them. Members include some of the wealthiest conservatives on the planet.
CNP co-founder, Paul Weyrich is on record, claiming that his politics preclude the notion of everyone voting for the candidate of their choice:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
Eric Prince, founder and owner of Blackwater, the controversial mercenary army that was deployed in NOLA during the Katrina disaster and has gained notoriety for the multiple killings of Iraqi civilians and for the multi billion dollar "no bid' contracts it has been awared by the Bush government, comes from a "CNP" family:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...np&btnG=Search
Candidate GW Bush, in 1999 appeared before a closed CNP meeting, and gave a speech in his role as a presidential candidate. Requests for the transcript and recording of that speech from the media have been refused for nine years now by both CNP and Bush.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...004Mar9_2.html
The Democratic 527 organizations have drawn support from some wealthy liberals determined to defeat Bush. They include financier George Soros and his wife, Susan Weber Soros, who gave $5 million to ACT and $1.46 million to MoveOn.org; Peter B. Lewis, chief executive of the Progressive Corp., who gave $3 million to ACT and $500,000 to MoveOn; and Linda Pritzker, of the Hyatt hotel family, and her Sustainable World Corp., who gave $4 million to the joint fundraising committee.
The Democratic coalition includes many of the party's most experienced strategists, spokesmen and fundraisers, as well former staffers for Kerry's campaign and the campaigns of several of his rivals. They include Ickes, who was deputy White House chief of staff in the Clinton administration, Steve Rosenthal, a former political director for the AFL-CIO who is executive director of ACT, and Jim Jordan, formerly Kerry's campaign manager, who heads the Thunder Road Group. ....
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http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=302
Q&A: MoveOn.org, Bundlers and Conduits
Attention to MoveOn.org’s advertising has prompted many questions about how the group operates, and how it and others direct money to political candidates.
By Center for Responsive Politics
How much money can an individual give to a conduit?
Conduits that are federal PACs can accept contributions up to $5,000 per year from an individual. However, in a two-year election cycle only a total of $4,600 of those funds can get passed on to a single candidate. That’s because, although the money is going through a PAC, it is designated for a specific candidate and the $2,300-per-election limit applies to the individual’s contribution to a candidate. <h2>This isn’t much of an issue for MoveOn.org, however. According to the group’s website, the PAC is funded mostly by people who give less than $100, with the average donation being $45.....
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.....What information does the Federal Election Commission require from conduits like MoveOn.org?
PACs are required to file information about their earmarked contributions on their regular FEC reports—every donation is identified. They must include information about the contributor (name and address and, if the donation exceeds $200, the donor’s employer and occupation), date and amount of the contribution and information about the designated candidate. An individual or group not registered as a political committee has to report information on an earmarked contribution in a letter to the FEC within 30 days of forwarding the donation.
Is bundling legal? Why do it?
Yes, bundling, or collecting contributions from multiple individuals in order to pass along the money, is legal. For a group like MoveOn.org, bundling isn't necessarily important, because the organization's name is already on the check. But an individual who bundles checks from family, colleagues and friends—or a company or union that bundles checks from employees or members—can take credit for a total that exceeds what they could otherwise contribute. Bundlers are often given identification codes by campaigns so that the campaign can determine how much money the bundler has brought in. If a bundler reimburses individuals for contributions they make in their own name, that’s illegal.
What's the Internet's role in all of this?
MoveOn.org’s name—a Web address—explains a lot about the group’s success. The Internet has made it much easier for conduits to get the word out about which candidates they support and why. <h3>It has also made it easier for individuals to give money, often in small amounts</h3> or as recurring contributions, as conduits have websites that allow for electronic contributions.
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ottopilot, can you understand that conservatives posting about Jeremiah Wright are influenced and are replicating, verbatim, the anti Obama motivated, crap propaganda distributed by
www.townhall.com staff and Salem Comm. radio talk show hosts paid to distribute the identical message, and that the organization and ownership of these Salem Media properties is the <h3>Exact opposite of a grassroots political organization, such as moveon.org?</h3> Can you grasp that difference at all..... on opposing sides, a closed, super secretive, conservative evangelical republican corporate monolith that actually is out to minimize the popular vote, and the other, an open, grassroots, populist driven and largely funded organization?
Can you see that it is vastly more difficult to post verbatim, the slurs and arguments that are distributed SO OFTEN, by Salem Comm. staff, websites, and broadcasts, and be take seriously, than it is to post opinions that are shaped and supported by populist ideas and independent research?
An example of the difference is the series of posts I have done about the origins of John McCain's initial post Navy employment, campaign financing, and his $50 to $100 million personal fortune. I found, on my own, 30 year old newspaper articles detailing the organized crime career of McCain's father in law. I posted photo images of the newspaper pages where I found the details I then transcribed in my posts.
I criticized powerclown and others for simply posting the message about Obama's pastor that was distributed by Salem Comm. in the exact same words.